ok ill tell the truth my ford blew a head gasket in utah!! so i traded it in for a new ford 350 no money out of pocket and moved the payment up 20.00 so i had to take it!!!! hopefully this one will live strong and carry on the ford winning way!!! chuckie thanks for letting me use your chevy duramax it was awesome but the bottom line ford has more power!!!come on!!!lol i will miss the rhino king hauler