dunefreak

Yes being 5th gear pinned over whoops on a quad IS more difficult. I didn't say I couldn't do it, just that my 2 wheeler takes em way smoother and faster and the quad doesn't give me the same feeling. As for LEARNING HOW TO RIDE MY QUAD BETTER, maybe you should go on a ride with me and see if you can even hang. I ride the sh*t out of my quad and love it as well. It does give me a rush, but a different kind of rush from the 2 wheeler. That's all I was saying. From the sounds of it, you can't ride a 2 wheeler in the dunes. Why would I want to ride a track where I am forced to ride the same line over and over? It takes alot of skill and balls to ride a dirtbike FAST in the sand. Maybe YOU should learn how to ride better. :fro: I'll do what makes me happy...you do what makes YOU happy.

Good to hear you that you got it to work, Brandon. :fro: Turbo paddles are da shiat!

No, but it sounds like it! :fro: Mayeb we can make a 2 for nothing deal. Someone come pick up both those turds and pay nothin!

yeah!

I saw it too! A couple of times.

I haven't checked that yet, but I will tonight! Thanks for the heads up. Either way, I am not relying only on locks for security. :fro:

ohhhhhhhh kayyyyyyyyyyyyyy haha

Yep, and I'm thirsty!

It was a very unfortunate indicident that has definitely shook the Dumont community. Some of these posts have been made "invisible" due to violation of our rules for this board. We at DDR apologize to any of the friends or family of Harry and Phil for some of these posts that continue to question the car's structural integrity. Whether the car was safe or not, it doesn't matter at this point. We have lost two fellow duners and that is truly a tradegy. We only hope this horrible crash will possibly help people be more safe in the dunes and try and take further safety measures. We will keep the friends and families of Harry and Phil in our thoughts and prayers. This topic will remain locked due to the never ending arguement about cage safety. We are all about safety in the dunes, but if you want to agrue about it, try another forum. We like to keep things friendly around here. Arguing and name calling won't be tolerated. (If you would like to send your condolences, you can do it here.) -Pete

OK, you all have had your experiences with Carter. Let's not turn this thread, which was intended to point out something GOOD about Carter, into a company bashing thread. We do not tolerate bashing on this site!

Thank you, Randy.

If we can't play nice then this topic will get closed like the last one and people will be suspended from the site. I am not referring to anyone in particular. Let's take all the negative energy we have for these topics and turn it into some good.

It's duniemonkie's birthday that weekend. We'll see about a day trip though.

Welcome to the site, BAD SS. Well put^ All these new disrespectful youngsters make me appreciate old skool duners like yourself. I hate to shine light on all these idiots as if they are the majority of the dune population, they aren't...yet. It's just that I have noticed alot more people like this last trip. Hopefully these aren't die hard duners that stay into the sport like the rest of us. On a more positive note, I did notice the people that DO have some respect for others this last weekend. I noticed a few people out there like you say that give you a head knod or wave as you pass, kinda like guys on motorcycles on the street. They usually don't know each other, but there is still that respect there for each other, kinda like a brotherhood. They are the same people that slow down when they pass by you sitting taking a break in the dunes. They make sure you are not broken down. There was a group of guys in sandrails that showed this respect on Sunday. I was out in my car with Ragdoll MX and we broke down. They were slightly ahead of us just before I broke. They circled back around to check on me because one of them thought he saw me break. That was way cool of them. They then towed me back to the flats and then drove me to my camp. That's respect for fellow duners.

Nick you have this all outta wack.... The lady at the DMV told me: if your trailer's UNLADEN (not loaded) weight is less than 10,000 lbs you don't need it. She said it could weigh 9500 lbs empty and 15,000 loaded and you still don't need it since it is under 10K empty. I know, it makes no sense, but that's what those fools told me. I even told them to make sure and she checked with her jaba-the-hut superviser. Jaba-the-hut said the same.

We ARE doing something about it...like ISBB said....FoDD. They already have a "dune etiquette" guide along with some good info that was given to Western Maintenance at the pay station to pass out. I guarantee you though that none of these jerks that are causing the problems are even reading them. It's unfortunate, but we can't change the way some people are. All we can do is join forces and help FoDD anyway we can. Not only that, but everyone needs to spread the word to fellow duners about respect. Who knows, maybe it will catch on with some of these fools. The more everyone becomes involved with helping Dumont by being PRO-ACTIVE, the longer we can keep Dumont our favorite place to go. Michelle your first step to helping the situation is join FoDD. Sign up here if you already haven't.

I should be leaving on Wednesday afternoon as well.

I was waiting for someone to pick on my car's integrity. One thing I don't think most understand is how hard the car hit on it's roof. It not only landed on it's roof, but it had alot of momentum and force from the rear of the car that caused even more force on impact along with the angle of the hill was almost like crashing head on into a wall. I think this thread has blown up into an arguement that can never be agreed on...how strong a sandrail's cage should be. I think most cars out there can survive rollovers. There may be some that can survive the crash that Harry and Phil were in, but not many. If a quad or bike would have went of that same hill the way that sandrail did, I bet the outcome would have been the same, deadly.

I think it was stated before....a friend of the family built the car along with Harry doing some things to help finish it up.

I couldn't say. I haven't really seen any King Sand Cars go. :shocked2: I would go Tom Pro out of those two, however, if you end up buying one new from TP he has quite a waiting list right now from what I have heard.

Well we take the finger dune to get to camp on the way back from the dunes. I don't see a problem with that. It is a dune and I don't see why people can't ride along the top of it as long as it's done safely. IMO, small children shouldn't be standing, sitting, or playing on it when people use it. You aren't gonna stop people from riding on it, so why would you let your kids near it? When we did and were roosted on purpose while riding the finger, we were only putting along the top very slowly. And BTW, it's 15mph near any camp, not 25. I saw very few people abiding by it this last weekend, nor did I see any Rangers enforcing it. :fro: :shocked2:

:shocked2: dayum take a breath, Nick!

Dave Larson towed back that yellow buggy, Nick. They have almost the same car. :shocked2: Here is Dave's rail...

Yep, what ISBB said ^^ Actually Tom Pro cars probably aren't the fasted. I just like the quailty more HD construction of his cars. Short Cars are one of the lightest, probably making them one of the fastest cars. It all depends on tire size, gearing, turbo, motor work etc though like ISBB said.

What's that all about?