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Looks like fun. Wish I lived closer. Haven't had any Dumont sand for 1.5 years. :mc_smiley: Gotta work on fixin' that this year.

For sure. I will be doing a bit of this :mc_smiley: in between taking pictures for the website. And I am determined to get to Dumont this year. :shocked2:

Just made my reservation at the Best Western. Be there Friday - Sunday.

Dunes closed just in Death Valley NP: Eureka Dunes Ibex Dunes Panamint Dunes Saline Dunes Eureka Dunes are HUGE. People used to ride there back in the 70's. That was a big loss for off-roaders. Kelso Dunes was another big loss.

The threat is still there. Just a matter of time.

I haven't seen any at Dumont either, but here are a few from nearby closed dunes... This is one from Kelso Dunes: This guy is from Cadiz Dunes (south of Kelso):

SAN BERNARDINO, Calif. (AP) - A conservation group is seeking federal protection for a desert lizard that lives in an area favored by off-road vehicle riders. The Center for Biological Diversity filed a formal petition Monday to list the Mojave fringe-toed lizard as threatened or endangered with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The petition seeks protection for the lizard population in the area around the Dumont Dunes Off-Highway Vehicle Area, about 30 miles north of Baker. The site attracts some 140,000 off-road enthusiasts each year. U.S. wildlife officials have 90 days under the federal Endangered Species Act to decide whether to pursue a full, yearlong review of the species. It's not clear what it would mean for the off-roaders if the Mojave lizard were listed as endangered. But any proposal that limits access to Dumont Dunes could anger the riders, who are still bristling over the closure of nearly 50,000 acres of dunes in Imperial County to protect Piersen's milkvetch, a native plant.

Nice air....

News Release For Release: March 1, 2006 Contact: Doran Sanchez (951) 697-5220; E-mail: Doran_Sanchez@ca.blm.gov CA-CDD-06-44 BLM Announces Members of Dumont Dunes Technical Review Team The Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) Barstow Field Office Manager Roxie Trost announced today the members selected to serve on Dumont Dunes Technical Review Team (TRT), which will advise BLM on the collection, expenditure, and accountability of fees, and development of future faculties and services. "We have a good selection of qualified TRT members who I believe will serve the public well," said Trost. "I also encouraged those who were not selected to stay in contact with BLM and the TRT, and participate in the public meetings." Below are the members of the TRT and their category of representation. Sheri Davis, commercial filming, member, California Desert District Advisory Council Ed Waldheim, Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Commission Terry Allen, Nevada off-highway vehicle (OHV) interests Kathleen Stosuy, California OHV interests Jim Branham, OHV organizations Gerry Hillier, San Bernardino County Randy Banis, other motorized recreation John Dalgeish, Friends of Dumont Dunes Bill Presch, member, California Desert District Advisory Council Ron Schiller, member, California Desert District Advisory Council David Charlton, member, California Desert District Advisory Council The first meeting will be held Tuesday, March 21 at 10:00 a.m. in the Barstow Field Office, located at 2601 Barstow Road, in Barstow. From Interstate 15 take the Barstow Road/Highway 247 exit and go east. Follow for approximately two miles and the office will be on the left. For more information visit the website at www.blm.gov/ca/barstow or contact Mike Ahrens, Barstow OHV coordinator, at (760) 252-6047. -BLM- California Desert District Office 22835 Calle San Juan De Los Lagos Moreno Valley, California (951) 697-5220

Looks like my crew has all switched plans from Dumont to Sand Mountain. I'll have to catch up with you guys another time.

First car - Tatum Sand Demon Second car - can't really count. Just bought it to take the parts and build a std. travel to sell. :tres hermanos_rock_smiley: Third car - Fourth car - coming very soon....

3rotortrav: Nice car. I had a Tatum Sand Demon with a Redline Rotary (only 2 rotors) a few years back. That thing hauled the mail. Yours must be very fast.... Jon

BLM raised fees at Sand Mountain, NV last year to $90/year - $40/week.

2/01/2006 09:48 PM http://www.sbsun.com/news/ci_3466230 Off-roading groups sue California commission Stacia Glenn, Staff Writer San Bernardino County Sun EcoLogic and five off-road advocacy groups are suing the California Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Commission, claiming it held illegal closed-session meetings and mismanaged grant money. The seven-member committee, created in 1982 by state legislation, is responsible for providing guidance for off-road policies, allocating off-road funds and grants and mitigating the adverse impacts of off-roading on the environment. Filed Friday in Sacramento Superior Court, the lawsuit contends the committee violated the Bagley-Keene open-meeting law by holding secret sessions in December and alleges that Chairman Paul Spitler spoke to at least three commissioners before a meeting about grant proposals that were to be voted on. The suit also accuses the commissioners of denying grants that would have benefited the off-road community and instead funding those that fit their own personal agendas - permanently closing trails and restoring landscapes that had never been used for off-road recreation. "It's like putting a Christian Scientist in charge of a medical board - these people don't entirely believe in (off-roading), and their agenda is for this whole program to fail," said Bill Dart, land-use director for the Off-Road Business Association, a co-plaintiff that has spent years fighting for off-road rights in San Bernardino and Riverside counties. "The two (state) Senate appointees and the two from (the) Assembly are radical environmentalists, they have the vote and they're wreaking havoc," he said. None of the commissioners are elected. Three are appointed by the governor, two are appointed by the Assembly speaker and two are appointed by the state Senate Rules Committee. The commissioners could not be reached for comment. Calls to the Off-Highway Motor Vehicle Recreation Commission's office were re-directed to the State Parks Department. California State Parks oversees the OHMVR program, and its employees assist the commission in reviewing grant applications and deciding which to fund. Roy Stearns, deputy director of communications for State Parks, has declined to comment on the lawsuit until the department's attorney has finished reviewing the document. He did, however, say the litigation "does not talk about us as having done anything wrong as a department. It primarily addresses actions of the commission." Enthusiasts are outraged that projects to enhance off-roading, which is one of the fastest growing recreation activities in the nation, are being ignored while money from riders - registration fees and a portion of the off-highway vehicle gas tax - are being used to restore land never open to riders. Out of $18 million that is available in state grants, the commission has spent less than $2 million on trail maintenance and opening new parks. The majority of the money has gone to restore lands that have never been open for recreation, Dart said. A preliminary injunction is being sought so commissioners cannot disburse grant money to groups whose projects were approved during the meetings in question. The commission's decisions about which projects to fund affects off-roaders throughout the state and has caused federal Bureau of Land Management offices, which operate off-road parks, to downscale because state money has slowed to a trickle in recent years. Barstow, Palm Springs and El Centro have suffered significant cutbacks, resulting in less law-enforcement patrol and less trail maintenance. It has also played a role in delaying the opening of an off-road park in Riverside County. In August, an audit found that the state has committed $38 million to buy three parcels of land that offer little or no benefit to off-roaders. One of those parcels is Laborde Canyon, a proposed site for an off-road park in the Badlands southwest of Beaumont. The other plaintiffs are San Diego Off-Road Coalition, California Off-Road Vehicle Association, American Sand Association and American Motorcyclists.

Sand Hollow sure is purty.... Nice car too!

I drove Bob's for a very short while at Gordon's Well. With the turbo it is too fast. If it was mine, I'd be looking for more suspension and steel around me. :eatdrink021:

My friend Bob has a Sick Sand Travel: Bob's Sick Sand Travel He has added a turbo since those pics. Bob should be with me at Dumont for President's weekend.

You got it. When we get closer, I will figure out where we are camping.

I will see if I can find it before Saturday at 2pm then.... We should have a mixed crew - - Sick Sand Travel mini rail - V8 Rail (Big K's old car - now Paul's) - Me in a new mid-engine two seater - Hopefully a Buckshot - Several quads Would love to check out your Short Sand Car.

OK, is the North Pole the same as the South Pole you are talking about here?

President's Weekend 2005:

I hope to be there again this year. Here is a pic from last year: