just to stir the i remember my first time to dumont was in 1993 on a off weekend . just like what every one here does a day trip in the summer . but this was in the winter no one for miles . even pres day had the amount of people to cover the little dunes you know the west side i 'm just curious on how and why so many people have flocked to dumont over the years compared to glamis . and in my opinion with all the flockers not fockers thats a serious issue with all whats going on with dumont the more people coming the more the state and rangers etc. have to deal with in trying to keep it a better place and the more the resident dumont users need to set a standerd on how dumont is kept and educate frequent users of dumont that we care were we ride