you cant wil for losing with these people.
and heaven forbid, if you try to approach one of them to see what they really know, they get very defensive,
I remeber once out at Glamis, i actually asked one of them if they would like to come visit our camp and ask all the questions they want about what we do and what we want. out of 10 of them, only 1 decided to come take a look, they came over and hung out for about 5 hours, asked us a million questions, just like we asked him. eventually we took him for a ride and he had a grin from ear to ear, some can be converted some cant.
and if you do come across some that are hostile, kill them with kindness, it only makes us look better.......although the sootin the hippies would have been better to see.. damed if you do damed if you dont...