sandawg Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 The best thing is to contact CAllifornia BLM and request the road be graded ASAP in preparation for the holiday traffic. If it is not graded by then, I will not be coming. Showing pictures of broken parts as is in this thread is the justification for the request. The road is a hazard now and the state could be held liable for not responding to a reasonable and prudent request. This is a safety issue. I know there were plans to grade the road before next weekend but after hearing complaints and after driving it this weekend It is going to take a lot of work to get that road to a "B" as it is probably in the worst shape I have seen it in for the last 10 years.It's going to be at leat least a cpl days of grading maybe more to get somewhat smoother. At 10 MPH I still have to go back to the dentist to get my fillings redone. It's pretty rough and wash board the whole way. Terry Thanks Terry. We just had our grader repaired and delivered. The operations crew is out there this week and hopefully they can get that B Road back. Roxie C. Trost Field Manager Barstow Field Office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 calm down everybody. OGP showed up to Dumont yesterday and said they were already working on the road when he was pulling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakster884 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) I have a feeling I am going to find out. 24HRS from now. A,B,C,D and or F. I will be pulling into some sand regardless of the condition. :pumpkin: Edited October 29, 2009 by Jakster884 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgeloco Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I will find out in about 10hrs almost out of here :halloween: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceisback Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) I'd think if you spent all of that money for a pass that you would have some RIGHT to pull this thing one direction or the other if it saves you from ripping the shocks off of your hauler. I may be way wrong but it just seems, you know? Question is though, if you have a hauler hooked up then what are you going to hitch this thing to? And with all of the varying sizes of balls what is the catch all for anyone WILLING to drag this with thing with them? I'd do it if it was there at the entrance or exit on my way in or out, as long as it wasn't a twenty minute ordeal unhitching and moving it to the side of the road for the next fella. Or lady. Edited October 29, 2009 by aceisback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltr450rider Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think that it is absolutly terrible that we have to take such a crappy dirt road to get to an OFF road recreation area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlaskan Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I think that it is absolutly terrible that we have to take such a crappy dirt road to get to an OFF road recreation area. \ I know, it gets my truck and quad all dirty before I even make it into the sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUn2it Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I'd think if you spent all of that money for a pass that you would have some RIGHT to pull this thing one direction or the other if it saves you from ripping the shocks off of your hauler. I may be way wrong but it just seems, you know? Question is though, if you have a hauler hooked up then what are you going to hitch this thing to? And with all of the varying sizes of balls what is the catch all for anyone WILLING to drag this with thing with them? I'd do it if it was there at the entrance or exit on my way in or out, as long as it wasn't a twenty minute ordeal unhitching and moving it to the side of the road for the next fella. Or lady. I was going to test it for an attachment point on the drag so it's at a slight diagonal so it doesn't just push the bigger rocks down the road but off to the right side and weld some ugly chain on it with a couple different sized hooks and 1 closed loop on the vehicle end so the loop could go over any ball and 1 of the hooks should be able to hook the frame under most trailers somewhere, if 1 out of 10 duners drag it, don't see how it couldn't help by knocking the tops off the washboard and leaving that in the low spots and the entrance is wide with a spot on the right going in to drop it and just after the the road turns towards the water crossing before the little down slope there's a wide area going in on the right where people with desert buggies use to camp, it had a no camping sign when the fee's started. 1 thing is for sure, if the BLM doesn't confiscate it and it gets used the results would be the same as you have seen after somebody has used one and the results probably looked better than that road especially on off weekends. Hey, if the road looks good, let the drag sit, if it looks washboardy drag it, much more rewarding than complaining about it, same as the trash, complaining only shows that you probably didn't contribute to the trash, that's it. Try picking a little up. I've seen the road 30 years ago where we had to make a detour around the motorhomes and trucks buried to the frame on the straight flat road, and times scraping bottom after rain would rut the road, moving rocks in the creek and way more times going up the last part several people stuck at once so to me the road is relatively good except for the cyclic screw loosening washboard at speeds faster than an AARP member with a walker. :angry2: Edited October 30, 2009 by RUn2it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 And with all of the varying sizes of balls :angry2: anyway... LEE..I think that before you build this, make sure the BLM is cool with it. i would drag it if the road was bad. i would get to camp first, but then go back a drag it....haulin azz to dust out all the inroad racer douchebags..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Agent Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Good roads = Bad People Bad roads = Good People Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUn2it Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 :angry2: anyway... LEE..I think that before you build this, make sure the BLM is cool with it. i would drag it if the road was bad. i would get to camp first, but then go back a drag it....haulin azz to dust out all the inroad racer douchebags..... This is what usually happens when dealing with govt agencies, you tell them what you want to do, whoever you have access to won't have the authority to give the OK so they give you a form to fill out and it goes up the chain, when it reaches the 1st person that may have the pay grade to authorize it they will deny it because there's no blueprint or detailed plans by a structural engineer for it therefore it could bring liability on the agency that authorizes it for negligence evidenced by the paper trail, if it just shows up they might confiscate it or do nothing as they didn't know it existed. I just came in on that road and it's either 8-10 mph or over 40 mph or it's shake, rattle and roll. If they bladed it the last couple days I sure couldn't tell. It looked like it might have been watered on the right going in in some places. Smooth at 40 but I'm not going to fly by people doing 10 mph even if I could see through the dust. I figure it's a gamble with my time, wire, argon/co2 and kilowatts but doing nothing will get nothing done. Or maybe make small versions that several of us could drag in and load up till we leave and drag it out ...... hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) Terry "Thanks Terry. We just had our grader repaired and delivered. The operations crew is out there this week and hopefully they can get that B Road back." Roxie C. Trost Field Manager Barstow Field Office How do you think they did???????? I'll hold my comment FYI..... Driving on a dirt road can rattle the bones. Every foot or so, a ridge of dirt up to several inches high lies in wait to jolt passing ears and trucks and their hapless occupants. In many places, road crews battle this "washboard" effect by frequently scraping the roads with bulldozers. But as soon as more vehicles pass, the ridges, phoenix like, return. It also states that the slower you drive on these roads the less it washboards! Like 5 MPH......That isn't goping to happen so more frequent scrapings is needed!! Now, a team of physicists has explained why a washboard forms, and their research has a dispiriting message for road crews: Scrape often, or give up. Washboard is inevitable. p.s. What's the point of posting a speed limit if the LE folks don't enforce it or observe it????? :angry2: I had a San Bernardino Sheriff vehicle (Flat Bed white truck) dust me bad when I was coming in on Saturday. I would estimate his speed to be over 40 mph. On the way out I had two pick ups coming in, dust me doing in excess of 40 mph!!! Edited November 1, 2009 by SANDAWG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGP Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 (edited) Yesterday when I was leaving dumont on the entrance/exit road, A blm vehicle comming into dumont At a speed of at least 50mph flew past me and threw up a rock. It broke my windshield. :angry2: Im wondering who I contact and what stack of paperwork Im going to need to fill out to get my window fixed. If I hadnt had my hauler and there were a place to turn around. Me and the a$$hat that came flying down the road would have have words. It was a blm truck towing some kind of small trailer at 12:35 in the afternoon. TO THE BLM a$$hat THAT ARE SUPPOSEDLY OUT THERE TO MAKE DUMONT A BETTER AND SAFER PLACE FOR US DUNERS....... THANKS FOR FOR BEING IRRESPONSIBLE NOT ABIDING BY THE 25 MPH POSTED SPEED LIMIT AND CRACKING MY WINDSHEILD. Edited November 1, 2009 by OGP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Good roads = Bad People Bad roads = Good People bad roads = broken sh*t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dune Dad Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Got to Dumont at 4am Thursday morning... Entrance road was an A.. Road was great.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1208 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Got to Dumont at 4am Thursday morning... Entrance road was an A.. Road was great.. i agree road was great going in on thursday night & going out sun afternoon.. :angry2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgeloco Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 The road was an A+ no problem props for the blm guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetesZ400 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Did a banzai trip out for the day on Friday (day after Thanksgiving) and the road seemed pretty good. I'm just pulling a 10' trailer with a Teryx on it, but at 25 MPH the ride wasn't too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand_YFZ Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Compared to kickoff weekend that road was a gem!! I thought it was pretty damn good.I was there friday as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im337337 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 The faster you go the better it is................lol. Im sure there are some people on here that remember the old days of the Dumont road sand traps and dips one lane. That was part of the adventure of going to Dumont. So I think the road these days are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakster884 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I will give the Entrance road a B coming in and an A+ Heading home. I guess Steve Let them have it.... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~JILL~ Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 They did a good job! Think thats the best I have seen it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkylnhyde Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 That road was a smoothe as I-15! A+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas style Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 i had a good talk with the same BLM ranger. he said they had a staff meeting where he told his supervisors about our conversation 2 weeks ago. and the new policy is the road gets graded on october 1 starting next year. i thanked him for taking it up with the BLM office and he thanked me for letting him know how we felt. the 3 rangers that were at joes accident were very nice and are on our side about most stuff. i would give the road a A both in on Wednesday and out sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanddunesaddict Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 road was absolutely awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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