solixa Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 tell me what you think... this is already welded sitting in the garage so dont be too harsh if you see something wrong, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 wow, looks damn stout. Got any more pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgeloco Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 What is the second picture? is that what would happen to the car in a front end collition? The car look nice what kind of engine are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted March 10, 2010 Author Share Posted March 10, 2010 the second pic is, if you notice the little purple arrows show where im applying force then the green arrows is where i have the model anchored, in this case testing the shock mounts front and back with 10,000 lbs. this tells me the back is fine but the front needs a little lovin. yes it is stout i used 2inch pipe all around, going be somewhat of a tank..thats not always a bad thing, im going to throw a small block chevy in there putting out around 400-450 hp. so she should scoot right along. ill post up my build pics for everyone's viewing pleasure as i get more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakster884 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 2" pipe. Stout it is. How much will the frame alone weigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE135 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) the second pic is, if you notice the little purple arrows show where im applying force then the green arrows is where i have the model anchored, in this case testing the shock mounts front and back with 10,000 lbs. this tells me the back is fine but the front needs a little lovin. yes it is stout i used 2inch pipe all around, going be somewhat of a tank..thats not always a bad thing, im going to throw a small block chevy in there putting out around 400-450 hp. so she should scoot right along. ill post up my build pics for everyone's viewing pleasure as i get more. I understand your working with a computer model. Since the frame in real life wouldn't be anchored, woulndn't the stress forces then be transmitted further into the frame giving better results. Also, 10K of force applied instantaneously would break anything. Isn't the force more gradual and dissapated somewhat by the suspension and completed frame. Please don't take this as criticism, I'm only asking in an attempt to learn, I'm not a mech eng, I wanted to be one once so I have an interest. Edited March 10, 2010 by FE135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydew Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Looks like you're really putting yourself into this Have you done the welding? Have you done the CAD engineering? What program are you running? I too, had an interest when i was younger. A thought: the weight won't be an issue....until you have to get towed :ahhhhh: Seriously though, It looks darn good :ahhhhh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir-clicks-alot Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 (edited) nice design is it a 4 or 5 seater rail .i should learn to use the program to design a sic sand rails. my dad has the program. me George and my other uncles plan to make a sand rail with ford 4.7l 900hp,earphones for passenger communication and air tanks to get fresh air instead of dust particulates Edited March 11, 2010 by BlitzkriegDUNER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted March 11, 2010 Author Share Posted March 11, 2010 the software i used was solidworks 2009. and yes i understand that the shocks will make up for alot of what that model is exaggerating.. yes i did all the welding myself, used a craftsman 110 flux core, just have to know where to set the wirespeed to get great burns, i use the .03 wire in hopes to get deeper welds and from my pipe bending tests the pipe would curl to be a circle before the welds snaped.. im by no means an engineer, just downloaded the software from demonoid and went to town. theres lots of tutorials floating around on the internet. my guess is the frame alone weights in around 1200-1400 lbs takes 2 adults to lift just the front, same with the back, 4 guys can pick it up off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydew Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 Sounds like it's gonna be awesome! The coolest part, is when you go out and it does well; you can say "Yes, I made this." Keep the pics coming; looks great! :ahhhhh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Mike Posted March 11, 2010 Share Posted March 11, 2010 If the weight of the car gets to heavy you will need to worry about what trans you are using. Looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted March 28, 2010 Author Share Posted March 28, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydew Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 ^^^ DANGITTTT Welds are looking good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegLegPerformance Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Is that seamed mild steal you are using? welds look good, that whole chassis mig welded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 Is that seamed mild steal you are using? welds look good, that whole chassis mig welded? almost all of the pipe is seemed, and yes its all mig welded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 You said earlier that it was 2" pipe. Is that correct? The pics don't look like 2" piping. Either way, lookin good! Very nice welds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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solixa Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) You said earlier that it was 2" pipe. Is that correct? The pics don't look like 2" piping. Either way, lookin good! Very nice welds. some of the cross pipes are smaller but for the most part its 2inch all around.. when i get back to the shop ill take another pic with a measuring tape. Edited March 30, 2010 by solixa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 some of the cross pipes are smaller but for the most part its 2inch all around.. when i get back to the shop ill take another pic with a measuring tape. ahh gotcha You don't have to. I trust ya. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted March 31, 2010 Author Share Posted March 31, 2010 ahh gotcha You don't have to. I trust ya. haha can you think of any problems i may run into from using thicker pipe then most other rails other then weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydew Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 can you think of any problems i may run into from using thicker pipe then most other rails other then weight? Weight can be a big factor, but other than that, nothing major... might not be able to find those billet clamp on items like mirrors, grab handles, and whip mounts, etc. You can always weld tabs for that stuff now, if you haven't already, or justmake friends with a good cnc guy, and go 1 off custom on the billet items Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted April 2, 2010 Author Share Posted April 2, 2010 Weight can be a big factor, but other than that, nothing major... might not be able to find those billet clamp on items like mirrors, grab handles, and whip mounts, etc. You can always weld tabs for that stuff now, if you haven't already, or justmake friends with a good cnc guy, and go 1 off custom on the billet items Frame weights in at 1100 lbs currently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace5Oh Posted April 4, 2010 Share Posted April 4, 2010 I wish I can come up with something like that in Solidworks lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted April 4, 2010 Author Share Posted April 4, 2010 I wish I can come up with something like that in Solidworks lol. i would be willing to part with the design for a little compensation. 25 bucks and shes yours as long as you dont resell it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solixa Posted April 5, 2010 Author Share Posted April 5, 2010 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sand-Rail-4-...52734266?ref=nf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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