CaptNkllm Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I said he SOUNDS LIKE !! ...If he gets offended...which I am sure he wont, seeings how he was in law enforcement for multiple years I am sure he has some thick skin.... but if I hurt his 1 feeling I will retract .... My apologies to the Forum Members Capt You're crossing the line with name calling, Dave. C'mon. Play by the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I have gone to a few of the blm meetings and have got now where.. Im voicing my thoughts about the blm.. If you want to voice yours on how Im so bad than thats your right also.. Thanks for making my point stronger.. Everybody give Terry a big .. Your DDR's offical BLM spokesman now. Good job! Glad to see wee still have life left on DDR.. It was getting a little quiet there for a minute.. As for going to Dumont, We have been going for years with no problems.. We had a few bad BLM runins in the Johnson Valley area not so long ago.. Maybe We can get Terry to straighten things out with em.. Go get em TERRY!! If I read your first and second e mail you attacked me personally for at least attempting to gain some rapport with a typically non relationship goverment bureauacy. (Try dealing with the BLM and it's LEO's at Glamis). Sorry that the world does not fall at your feet and meet your demands. I will tell you that your input along with others does make a difference on how Barstow BLM does their job at Dumont and surronding areas. I am not the "official" spokesperson for this web site, anything I said I stand by as a personal opinion and not as a representitive of this web site. I want to make that clear as I do not own nor am I a mod for ths site. I do not agree with your attitude nor your thought process and I have never said that you need to fall in line with BLM, all I ask is that maybe you walk a mile in their shoes before you make rash and irrational statements about things you no nothing of. Dealing with a govermental bureauacy is a totally different unertaking and has to be understood by spending time in their world and their system to learn how it does work or in your opinion not work. I would be glad to sit down over a cold one around the campfire and hear your opinion on how we can change things for the better. Understand that I am only one voice in a sub-group of 9 but I would be glad to pass along your issues and see if we as a sub-group can assist. Will the fees ever go away? Probably not the goverment is broke and the state of California is broke so fee's will not be departing soon. You can either look at it as you at least get some services for what you pay or you do not depending on what your outlook on life is which I think I already know. Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas FX400 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 I LIKE PIZZA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sandman Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) None of us like paying fees on top of the high taxes already paid but as it's already been said disrespecting the LEO's is not the way to go about voicing your displeasure. They didn't write the laws they only enforce them and as a person in law enforcement I would think that you should know that. Just because a few bad apples in the BLM and other areas of law enforcement have tainted the rep of all the good ones doesn't mean they're all bad. Similarly, just as someone who disrespects our riding areas and trashes and tears everything up doesn't mean we're all bad but we all get dumped into the same idiot offroader barrel. Think about it and we'll all be better off with better actions and words...and no, I'm not a LEO. Rather, the guys in the linked story below have gone about it the right way and maybe by doing so we'll all be helped and better off in the long run. http://www.dailybull...ews/ci_19974329 Edited February 23, 2012 by Mr. Sandman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE135 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 This is what you want to read: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1593849.html I read this as you can drive your car to dumont, meet up with friends and not have to pay a fee. BLM falls under this law also. And yes I already feel Terry slapping me upside my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) The case can be made that you would not go to Dumont to meet with your friends unless they were there to use the OHV area and camping area. However I am certainly not an Attorney and I do believe that we as users should be able to have non-users come out and visit for the day or weekend. The plan is that if you buy a season pass you will be able to get an "extra" vehicle pass so the wife or friends can join you without paying for another pass. That vehicle MUST come in without any OHV attached or in the bed etc. We are working on this for next year but have to go through DAC and RRAC to get it approved. See the goverment bureauacy works at a completely different pace and time then normal business where decisions are made and implemented daily. Just does not happen in goverment offices. So consider your head slapped:) Edited February 29, 2012 by ynot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FE135 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Beautiful thing about case law, don't have to wait. They were very clear on the plain language of the law. No amenities at Dumont to charge for. I'm not talking special rec fee. But yes, I agree with you on the plan. I just like to stir this issue now and then, especially when a very liberal court gets it right. Damb, not so hard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Beautiful thing about case law, don't have to wait. They were very clear on the plain language of the law. No amenities at Dumont to charge for. I'm not talking special rec fee. But yes, I agree with you on the plan. I just like to stir this issue now and then, especially when a very liberal court gets it right. Damb, not so hard... Sorry but a b*tch slap has to make a certain point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp-guy Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 3 days and no more drama on this topic!!! Guess its time to put this one to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG DAVE XP1K Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Frankly my take is one pass one vehicle not one pass 2 vehicles so what is actually the difference whos using it on any given weekend. All I see them doing with my cash is improving the small paradise the BLM parks all their utvs atvs rails campers trucks etc on and not much comming back to us so If I want to lend my pass to a friend or family member when Im NOT using it whats the difference? its good for the whole season one vehicle at a time no matter who is using it.. JUST SAYN.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dune Dad Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Frankly my take is one pass one vehicle not one pass 2 vehicles so what is actually the difference whos using it on any given weekend. All I see them doing with my cash is improving the small paradise the BLM parks all their utvs atvs rails campers trucks etc on and not much comming back to us so If I want to lend my pass to a friend or family member when Im NOT using it whats the difference? its good for the whole season one vehicle at a time no matter who is using it.. JUST SAYN.... Yep.. Be careful what you say here.. Their are some very sensitive duners on this site.. Even a few tough guys.. lol.. Im glad someone else see's that the BLM doesn't do much for our riding areas.. We went out last weekend for a day and a night.. Was a lot of fun.. I still stand by my orignal comments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 wwwwhaaaaa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp-guy Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I like pudding!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlvredneck Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 this is what happens when a state goes broke! so twist the easy arms for money just like nv is starting with this suppossed havin to register ohv's. if i have to register it and pay to get in somewhere i'm gettin a farm triangle and drivin it on the friggin street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceisback Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Now that's big pimpin' Amish right there^^^^^! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandslayer Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Just blame it on Obama! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo_bruce Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 iam thinking not many pep going this year. as for as blm i have a dif opinion now that i had a mishap out there and the blm came by with some oxygen for me. it was nice to have them out there and my have saved my life thanks blm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 does all this come with frys ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp-guy Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Who the heck is that guy ^^^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 im that guy you arrested trying to get IN to mexico .............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 its halloween where r u. were leaving for dumont in the morning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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