14 Ply Steel Trailer Tires

[Dive Bar Casanova]

The tires that came on our Toy Hauler were showing signs of tread separation at 1100 miles so we went in for new. 

I check tire pressure every leg of our trips it’s essential. 

 

Americas / Discount talk us into Carlisle’s, “they are making them better” they told us. 

The new and Improved Carlisle’s grenaded in about 240 miles. Same day I bought them: 

 

This the first leg of a 40 day off roading trip . I found a truck tire shop and I put on 14 ply steel to save the trip and we moved on. 

Friends with similar TH’s all have made the move to 14 ply. 

China made was all the desert tire shop had in G rated 14 ply and they assured me they were good. 

 

15000 miles later they are experiencing tread separation and took the trim with it. 

 

 

So so today I moved up to American made GoodYear 14 ply Steel. Supposed to be the best I hear: 

 

 

Lets see. A DDR tire test. 

Edited November 2, 2018 by Dive Bar Casanova

[dunefreak]

If only they made them in 15". I've been wanting to put LT tires on my hauler for a while, but I'd have to replace all 6 wheels as well. Next set of tires I just might. 

[DirtBikeGuy]

We had tire problems just about every trip, since we switch to the 16" wheel and LT tires we usually go 2 seasons minimum with no issues at all. That also includes a trip from So-cal to Moab and up to Manti Utah with no tire issues. 

[Dive Bar Casanova]

Furthermore and what Toy Hauler owner should know: 

 

235 85 R16 14 ply are a smaller diameter, slightly lower profile to accommodate triple axels. Remember most tripple axel float or caster in several directions and tires will rub and detonate if you size them wrong. 

Tires stores don’t know this. 

American made slightly smaller Dia than the China made as well. 

 

If you’ve tried a bigger like say a 245 regular E load rating trailer tire you may find they will rub each other. Won’t work. 

The 14 ply  steel eliminates this mulligan.

The  tire store owners didn’t know this and they are the biggest in the entire Southwest. 

Also 14 ply don’t dry out like regular E rated tires do. 

Toy Hauler builders are now offering them standard or extra cost optional. 

 

Also they are MFSOB heavy. Super heavy. 

At least 4 times probably much more heavy than a regular trailer tire. 

 

Heading back from Dumont I experienced the tread separation in Palmdale so I simply pulled into the Elks campground to deal with the issue. 

$15 a night full hookups. $2.75 16 oz Shock Tops and a huge dirt section next door to run the X3. 

 

The Tire Store had the Good Years I wanted but a MFSOB to pull this 43’ rig in there so I took the tires off at the RV Park and hauled them in. 

Asskicking heavy, I used a MC ramp to roll them in the truck bed. Use a floor jack under each axel to line up the studs. Heed that advise brothers. Hold that thought. 

 

They are making the China tires better but that doesn’t mean they are all that good. 

But I got 15000 vs 250 miles outta them. 

The American made GoodYears are $50 more per tire and I’ll wager they will be worth it. 

 

Wife is outta town at one of the kids college skull sessions so I think I’ll hang out here for a spell. 

 

The worlds largest airplane is next door and amazing to watch from a beach chair at the RV. 

Yeah, it’s big. Way big. 

Edited November 3, 2018 by Dive Bar Casanova

[DuNe~Rydher]

I learned the hard way with stock China bombs and Carlisle's as well. My current TH is the only one I've bought new. I changed the tires the day after I bought it. Wasn't going to risk it. I run Sailun S637 all steel 14 ply G rated tires. I know trying to save $ on tires is usually a regrettable decision. But they actually have a huge following and great reviews. Had them on my 43' TH for 2 years now and they look brand new. Besides the one I had to plug. Lol. Damn nails in a new housing construction. 

 

Next time you're in the market, look them up. 

They used to be labeled LT, with the higher speed rating. Due to something to do with importing them, they had to re label them for trailer use only. Same tire though, so you still get the G rating with the higher speed rating of an LT.