SandBox_Kid Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Here is the new truck Schwiiiiiiing!!!! Very nice ...and good choice. Congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bad4fiddy Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 All Diesels Are NOT Created Equal!! In our never ending quest to bring our customers only the best, it seems appropriate to share a few thoughts and facts as to why we only sell "particular" makes of diesel engines. Chevy and GMC trucks equipped with the Duramax diesels: Many people want to know why we don't sell any GM diesels, specifically the Duramax diesels. Let me start by saying that the GM truck is absolutely awesome, we are not biased. The transmission is relatively good, frames are rigid and the rest is all great. The problem is that the motor is in our opinion a "consumer" diesel, not a "commercial" diesel. Explanation: The International Navistar in the Fords and the Cummins in the Dodges are found in all sorts of commercial applications. It is in the Ford and Dodge pickups, UPS trucks, FedEx trucks, tow trucks, school buses, Recreational Vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks, to name a few. Ford and Dodge chose the International Navistar and the Cummins, respectively, to use in their pickups. The Duramax is found almost NOWHERE but in the GM pickups. Even Isuzu, who partnered with GM to build it, doesn't use it in any of their commercial applications. Check it out and see for yourself. Furthermore, the Duramax is rated by it's own manufacturer for a 225k mile life expectancy. The 7.3 Navistar and 5.9 Cummins are both rated for 375k miles and easily last twice that and more. Why would you knowingly buy a truck that is rated to be little more than half as good by it's manufacture, as it's competitors? The short life expectancy is partially due to the undeniably brutal power produced by this motor. The Duramax is a 22:1 compression motor that uses a cast iron engine block with aluminum heads held on by steel head bolts. A combination of three different metals that expand different amounts at different temperatures. This along with massive amounts of boost from the turbo to aluminum heads under extremely high compression makes for phenomenal power, but in our opinion it has no longevity or reliability. We shop hundreds of trucks every month all over this great country and have SELDOM seen a Duramax with anywhere near 200k miles or more on it. Go ahead and try and find one for yourself, I have. Maybe we're old school, but if you're looking for a diesel that's going to last you awhile before major repairs, the Duramax is not it!..... Isn't a major attraction of buying a diesel the longevity and reliability issue? You can make safe, RELIABLE power with the Fords and Dodges and avoid costly repairs as well. We only sell products that we know and trust. It makes us no money to NOT to sell the Duramax, in fact we lose money by not selling GM Duramax trucks. Unfortunately we can't sell GM Duramax trucks in good faith, knowing the facts as we, so we don't. How about the FORD 6.0 Powerstroke? This one's a toughie........In late 2003 when Ford switched to the 6.0 liter from the 7.3 liter, many factors were involved. Unfortunately for us (the consumer), we lost a great, proven, economical, bulletproof motor, the 7.3 Liter . This was, from my understanding, due to several reasons, both stated by Ford/Navistar and some reasons not stated but obvious to us. The 7.3L was introduced in 1988 and refined over a 15 year period until 2003. Each year it got better; more powerful, better fuel economy, and kept it's high rating for expected miles. In 2003 Ford/International were forced to produce a "cleaner burning" diesel. So the 6.0 liter was developed with an EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) system to meet the EPA demands. There was less than 2 years testing done on this motor before it was released to the public. In 2003 and early 2004 it had several problems. The issue that was not stated but totally obvious was that the 7.3L was such a reliable motor that people were getting over 300 to 400 thousand miles and more out of them and not buying new trucks, because their 7.3 was still running great. Good for the owners, but not so good for Ford. In our opinion they needed a way to get people buying new diesels again and this was a perfect time. The 6.0 liter was introduced. As a performer it hauled a**!! but it had serious reliability issues: turbos went bad with regularity, head gaskets blew, motors overheated. Maybe in the future we can sell late 2004 and 2005 6.0 liters, but it's too early now and we will NOT sell the earlier models (2003-2004) due to reliability issues. Again, it makes us no money not to sell them. In fact, if you look at our "competitors" they usually have tons of them for sale and very few 7.3L, as the 7.3L are getting harder to find. Do you think a car lot would give you this information even if they did know? They are trained to sell what they have irregardless if it what you need and what will serve you best.. We will help you buy the right truck and avoid a costly mistake/repairs by buying the wrong truck. We sell only high quality pre-owned diesel trucks. We are not some "car lot" that happens to have a few diesels, . Freedom Diesels is the diesel specialist. Who do you think you'd like to deal with? Any technical questions, feel free to contact me, Dan (951) 634-5333 check out this website www.gooddiesels.com , the 7.3 and cummins are the best , the duracrap is still just crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Dirt Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 of the war being waged inside your head??? you two gonna have your diesels @ piss-mo right??? I will. Bob probably will not. I bet he will bring his RV. But, I'll let him respond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Dirt Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 All Diesels Are NOT Created Equal!! In our never ending quest to bring our customers only the best, it seems appropriate to share a few thoughts and facts as to why we only sell "particular" makes of diesel engines. Chevy and GMC trucks equipped with the Duramax diesels: Many people want to know why we don't sell any GM diesels, specifically the Duramax diesels. Let me start by saying that the GM truck is absolutely awesome, we are not biased. The transmission is relatively good, frames are rigid and the rest is all great. The problem is that the motor is in our opinion a "consumer" diesel, not a "commercial" diesel. Explanation: The International Navistar in the Fords and the Cummins in the Dodges are found in all sorts of commercial applications. It is in the Ford and Dodge pickups, UPS trucks, FedEx trucks, tow trucks, school buses, Recreational Vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks, to name a few. Ford and Dodge chose the International Navistar and the Cummins, respectively, to use in their pickups. The Duramax is found almost NOWHERE but in the GM pickups. Even Isuzu, who partnered with GM to build it, doesn't use it in any of their commercial applications. Check it out and see for yourself. Furthermore, the Duramax is rated by it's own manufacturer for a 225k mile life expectancy. The 7.3 Navistar and 5.9 Cummins are both rated for 375k miles and easily last twice that and more. Why would you knowingly buy a truck that is rated to be little more than half as good by it's manufacture, as it's competitors? The short life expectancy is partially due to the undeniably brutal power produced by this motor. The Duramax is a 22:1 compression motor that uses a cast iron engine block with aluminum heads held on by steel head bolts. A combination of three different metals that expand different amounts at different temperatures. This along with massive amounts of boost from the turbo to aluminum heads under extremely high compression makes for phenomenal power, but in our opinion it has no longevity or reliability. We shop hundreds of trucks every month all over this great country and have SELDOM seen a Duramax with anywhere near 200k miles or more on it. Go ahead and try and find one for yourself, I have. Maybe we're old school, but if you're looking for a diesel that's going to last you awhile before major repairs, the Duramax is not it!..... Isn't a major attraction of buying a diesel the longevity and reliability issue? You can make safe, RELIABLE power with the Fords and Dodges and avoid costly repairs as well. We only sell products that we know and trust. It makes us no money to NOT to sell the Duramax, in fact we lose money by not selling GM Duramax trucks. Unfortunately we can't sell GM Duramax trucks in good faith, knowing the facts as we, so we don't. How about the FORD 6.0 Powerstroke? This one's a toughie........In late 2003 when Ford switched to the 6.0 liter from the 7.3 liter, many factors were involved. Unfortunately for us (the consumer), we lost a great, proven, economical, bulletproof motor, the 7.3 Liter . This was, from my understanding, due to several reasons, both stated by Ford/Navistar and some reasons not stated but obvious to us. The 7.3L was introduced in 1988 and refined over a 15 year period until 2003. Each year it got better; more powerful, better fuel economy, and kept it's high rating for expected miles. In 2003 Ford/International were forced to produce a "cleaner burning" diesel. So the 6.0 liter was developed with an EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) system to meet the EPA demands. There was less than 2 years testing done on this motor before it was released to the public. In 2003 and early 2004 it had several problems. The issue that was not stated but totally obvious was that the 7.3L was such a reliable motor that people were getting over 300 to 400 thousand miles and more out of them and not buying new trucks, because their 7.3 was still running great. Good for the owners, but not so good for Ford. In our opinion they needed a way to get people buying new diesels again and this was a perfect time. The 6.0 liter was introduced. As a performer it hauled a**!! but it had serious reliability issues: turbos went bad with regularity, head gaskets blew, motors overheated. Maybe in the future we can sell late 2004 and 2005 6.0 liters, but it's too early now and we will NOT sell the earlier models (2003-2004) due to reliability issues. Again, it makes us no money not to sell them. In fact, if you look at our "competitors" they usually have tons of them for sale and very few 7.3L, as the 7.3L are getting harder to find. Do you think a car lot would give you this information even if they did know? They are trained to sell what they have irregardless if it what you need and what will serve you best.. We will help you buy the right truck and avoid a costly mistake/repairs by buying the wrong truck. We sell only high quality pre-owned diesel trucks. We are not some "car lot" that happens to have a few diesels, . Freedom Diesels is the diesel specialist. Who do you think you'd like to deal with? Any technical questions, feel free to contact me, Dan (951) 634-5333 check out this website www.gooddiesels.com , the 7.3 and cummins are the best , the duracrap is still just crap Very well said! Really. Good job. I have a 2003 and I have the 7.3l. So, it went through 2003 on the 7.3l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremedirtlv Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Ford for life!! I work for ford dealer in lasvegas and i havent seen the 08 sd in there for any probs yet. There sweet trucks, power is nice and smooth no turbo lag. Best of all is how quiet it is. FORD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Very well said! Really. Good job. I have a 2003 and I have the 7.3l. So, it went through 2003 on the 7.3l Too bad he didn't say it. Nice copy and paste, Chase. Where do you get all your diesel experience from, Chase? You don't even own one. I don't see how you can come to such an opinion on a motor when all you have is old pos Dodge GAS trucks. I also find it amusing that you can only post up (or shall I say copy and paste) another person's post from some other website and then just agree with it and throw in some criticism. Where are YOUR hard facts and experiences?? IMO, you only like to talk crap about chit you don't have. ok, I'm done.....I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Dang.... Dunefreak hammer down. Well I don't have much to say but Go Toyota!!!! There i'm done too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Dang.... Dunefreak hammer down. Well I don't have much to say but Go Toyota!!!! There i'm done too. Sorry, certain people deserve it sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadracer Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Too bad he didn't say it. Nice copy and paste, Chase. Where do you get all your diesel experience from, Chase? You don't even own one. I don't see how you can come to such an opinion on a motor when all you have is old pos Dodge GAS trucks. I also find it amusing that you can only post up (or shall I say copy and paste) another person's post from some other website and then just agree with it and throw in some criticism. Where are YOUR hard facts and experiences?? IMO, you only like to talk crap about chit you don't have. ok, I'm done.....I think well said pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadracer Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Here is the new truck nice rig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 (edited) All Diesels Are NOT Created Equal!! In our never ending quest to bring our customers only the best, it seems appropriate to share a few thoughts and facts as to why we only sell "particular" makes of diesel engines. Chevy and GMC trucks equipped with the Duramax diesels: Many people want to know why we don't sell any GM diesels, specifically the Duramax diesels. Let me start by saying that the GM truck is absolutely awesome, we are not biased. The transmission is relatively good, frames are rigid and the rest is all great. The problem is that the motor is in our opinion a "consumer" diesel, not a "commercial" diesel. Explanation: The International Navistar in the Fords and the Cummins in the Dodges are found in all sorts of commercial applications. It is in the Ford and Dodge pickups, UPS trucks, FedEx trucks, tow trucks, school buses, Recreational Vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks, to name a few. Ford and Dodge chose the International Navistar and the Cummins, respectively, to use in their pickups. The Duramax is found almost NOWHERE but in the GM pickups. Even Isuzu, who partnered with GM to build it, doesn't use it in any of their commercial applications. Check it out and see for yourself. Furthermore, the Duramax is rated by it's own manufacturer for a 225k mile life expectancy. The 7.3 Navistar and 5.9 Cummins are both rated for 375k miles and easily last twice that and more. Why would you knowingly buy a truck that is rated to be little more than half as good by it's manufacture, as it's competitors? The short life expectancy is partially due to the undeniably brutal power produced by this motor. The Duramax is a 22:1 compression motor that uses a cast iron engine block with aluminum heads held on by steel head bolts. A combination of three different metals that expand different amounts at different temperatures. This along with massive amounts of boost from the turbo to aluminum heads under extremely high compression makes for phenomenal power, but in our opinion it has no longevity or reliability. We shop hundreds of trucks every month all over this great country and have SELDOM seen a Duramax with anywhere near 200k miles or more on it. Go ahead and try and find one for yourself, I have. Maybe we're old school, but if you're looking for a diesel that's going to last you awhile before major repairs, the Duramax is not it!..... Isn't a major attraction of buying a diesel the longevity and reliability issue? You can make safe, RELIABLE power with the Fords and Dodges and avoid costly repairs as well. We only sell products that we know and trust. It makes us no money to NOT to sell the Duramax, in fact we lose money by not selling GM Duramax trucks. Unfortunately we can't sell GM Duramax trucks in good faith, knowing the facts as we, so we don't. How about the FORD 6.0 Powerstroke? This one's a toughie........In late 2003 when Ford switched to the 6.0 liter from the 7.3 liter, many factors were involved. Unfortunately for us (the consumer), we lost a great, proven, economical, bulletproof motor, the 7.3 Liter . This was, from my understanding, due to several reasons, both stated by Ford/Navistar and some reasons not stated but obvious to us. The 7.3L was introduced in 1988 and refined over a 15 year period until 2003. Each year it got better; more powerful, better fuel economy, and kept it's high rating for expected miles. In 2003 Ford/International were forced to produce a "cleaner burning" diesel. So the 6.0 liter was developed with an EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) system to meet the EPA demands. There was less than 2 years testing done on this motor before it was released to the public. In 2003 and early 2004 it had several problems. The issue that was not stated but totally obvious was that the 7.3L was such a reliable motor that people were getting over 300 to 400 thousand miles and more out of them and not buying new trucks, because their 7.3 was still running great. Good for the owners, but not so good for Ford. In our opinion they needed a way to get people buying new diesels again and this was a perfect time. The 6.0 liter was introduced. As a performer it hauled a**!! but it had serious reliability issues: turbos went bad with regularity, head gaskets blew, motors overheated. Maybe in the future we can sell late 2004 and 2005 6.0 liters, but it's too early now and we will NOT sell the earlier models (2003-2004) due to reliability issues. Again, it makes us no money not to sell them. In fact, if you look at our "competitors" they usually have tons of them for sale and very few 7.3L, as the 7.3L are getting harder to find. Do you think a car lot would give you this information even if they did know? They are trained to sell what they have irregardless if it what you need and what will serve you best.. We will help you buy the right truck and avoid a costly mistake/repairs by buying the wrong truck. We sell only high quality pre-owned diesel trucks. We are not some "car lot" that happens to have a few diesels, . Freedom Diesels is the diesel specialist. Who do you think you'd like to deal with? Any technical questions, feel free to contact me, Dan (951) 634-5333 check out this website www.gooddiesels.com , the 7.3 and cummins are the best , the duracrap is still just crap copy and paste strikes again gee, why aren't the duramax's found in commercial applications??? BECAUSE THEY ARE FAIRLY NEW!!! why is it that a CONSUMER diesel is kicking the commerical diesels AZZES in the 2500/3500/4500 applications? transmission relatively good? what an azzhat... is that why both dodge and ford scrambled to copy the allison with their crap-shift, and Dodge with their transmission de jour??? gee, whoever you stole that from Chase isn't biased.....not one bit and why was it again he doesnt sell gm products?????? because he can't get a dealership, so he hits the 6 foot bong a few too many times, and makes some stuff up. dude, ya gonna eat that twinkie??? :mc_smiley: Edited March 1, 2007 by RICHARDCHEESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Dirt Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Too bad he didn't say it. Nice copy and paste, Chase. Where do you get all your diesel experience from, Chase? You don't even own one. I don't see how you can come to such an opinion on a motor when all you have is old pos Dodge GAS trucks. I also find it amusing that you can only post up (or shall I say copy and paste) another person's post from some other website and then just agree with it and throw in some criticism. Where are YOUR hard facts and experiences?? IMO, you only like to talk crap about chit you don't have. :mc_smiley: ok, I'm done.....I think WOW! I thought he said it. Sure made it seem that way. Kind of misleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 copy and paste strikes again gee, why aren't the duramax's found in commercial applications??? BECAUSE THEY ARE FAIRLY NEW!!! why is it that a CONSUMER diesel is kicking the commerical diesels AZZES in the 2500/3500/4500 applications? transmission relatively good? what an azzhat... is that why both dodge and ford scrambled to copy the allison with their crap-shift, and Dodge with their transmission de jour??? gee, whoever you stole that from Chase isn't biased.....not one bit and why was it again he doesnt sell gm products?????? because he can't get a dealership, so he hits the 6 foot bong a few too many times, and makes some stuff up. dude, ya gonna eat that twinkie??? :mc_smiley: And to add to that, that Duramax IS found in some commercial applications. They put it in the medium duty trucks. That guy needs to do his homework first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I know american medical response is a huge ambulance service, they will not use dodge or chevy. they claim niether are fleet compatable. they are running 7.3 ford because of the problems with the 6.0. most of these rigs are over 300,000 miles because of it. construction companies use mostly, not all, most ,use fords. i grew up in the underground bussines after i left my dad wrecking yard. and all you saw ,and pretty much wouldn't die, were fords. chevy has more wins with there engines than any U.S. maker including the venerable hemi. dodge in the last 3 years has been making improvements into quality of there vehicles. my 04 dodge shows they have come along way in my eyes. Fit and finish are still good after 2 years early dodge owners know this is an achievement lol. however chevrolets as good as there motors are and there trans , they have had reliability issues for a very long time just like dodge. none of these trucks are crap sh*t or garbage they are very tough vehicles that pull alot weight and have to act like a street car. i think its marvelous look at an 89 ford diesel and see how far its come or a 79 model chevy diesel. the japs have nothing in the 3/4 ton venue that can touch american 3/4 tons and up but they will.................... and thats all i got to say about that..................... except........................ well..... dodge still rulez :mc_smiley: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Here is the new truck nice rig are you going to do any mods to it or just keep it stock ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I know american medical response is a huge ambulance service, they will not use dodge or chevy. they claim niether are fleet compatable. they are running 7.3 ford because of the problems with the 6.0. most of these rigs are over 300,000 miles because of it. construction companies use mostly, not all, most ,use fords. i grew up in the underground bussines after i left my dad wrecking yard. and all you saw ,and pretty much wouldn't die, were fords. chevy has more wins with there engines than any U.S. maker including the venerable hemi. dodge in the last 3 years has been making improvements into quality of there vehicles. my 04 dodge shows they have come along way in my eyes. Fit and finish are still good after 2 years early dodge owners know this is an achievement lol. however chevrolets as good as there motors are and there trans , they have had reliability issues for a very long time just like dodge. none of these trucks are crap sh*t or garbage they are very tough vehicles that pull alot weight and have to act like a street car. i think its marvelous look at an 89 ford diesel and see how far its come or a 79 model chevy diesel. the japs have nothing in the 3/4 ton venue that can touch american 3/4 tons and up but they will.................... and thats all i got to say about that..................... except........................ well..... dodge still rulez :mc_smiley: I agree with 99 percent of that!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandBox_Kid Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 All Diesels Are NOT Created Equal!! In our never ending quest to bring our customers only the best, it seems appropriate to share a few thoughts and facts as to why we only sell "particular" makes of diesel engines. Chevy and GMC trucks equipped with the Duramax diesels: Many people want to know why we don't sell any GM diesels, specifically the Duramax diesels. Let me start by saying that the GM truck is absolutely awesome, we are not biased. The transmission is relatively good, frames are rigid and the rest is all great. The problem is that the motor is in our opinion a "consumer" diesel, not a "commercial" diesel. Explanation: The International Navistar in the Fords and the Cummins in the Dodges are found in all sorts of commercial applications. It is in the Ford and Dodge pickups, UPS trucks, FedEx trucks, tow trucks, school buses, Recreational Vehicles, ambulances, fire trucks, to name a few. Ford and Dodge chose the International Navistar and the Cummins, respectively, to use in their pickups. The Duramax is found almost NOWHERE but in the GM pickups. Even Isuzu, who partnered with GM to build it, doesn't use it in any of their commercial applications. Check it out and see for yourself. Furthermore, the Duramax is rated by it's own manufacturer for a 225k mile life expectancy. The 7.3 Navistar and 5.9 Cummins are both rated for 375k miles and easily last twice that and more. Why would you knowingly buy a truck that is rated to be little more than half as good by it's manufacture, as it's competitors? The short life expectancy is partially due to the undeniably brutal power produced by this motor. The Duramax is a 22:1 compression motor that uses a cast iron engine block with aluminum heads held on by steel head bolts. A combination of three different metals that expand different amounts at different temperatures. This along with massive amounts of boost from the turbo to aluminum heads under extremely high compression makes for phenomenal power, but in our opinion it has no longevity or reliability. We shop hundreds of trucks every month all over this great country and have SELDOM seen a Duramax with anywhere near 200k miles or more on it. Go ahead and try and find one for yourself, I have. Maybe we're old school, but if you're looking for a diesel that's going to last you awhile before major repairs, the Duramax is not it!..... Isn't a major attraction of buying a diesel the longevity and reliability issue? You can make safe, RELIABLE power with the Fords and Dodges and avoid costly repairs as well. We only sell products that we know and trust. It makes us no money to NOT to sell the Duramax, in fact we lose money by not selling GM Duramax trucks. Unfortunately we can't sell GM Duramax trucks in good faith, knowing the facts as we, so we don't. How about the FORD 6.0 Powerstroke? This one's a toughie........In late 2003 when Ford switched to the 6.0 liter from the 7.3 liter, many factors were involved. Unfortunately for us (the consumer), we lost a great, proven, economical, bulletproof motor, the 7.3 Liter . This was, from my understanding, due to several reasons, both stated by Ford/Navistar and some reasons not stated but obvious to us. The 7.3L was introduced in 1988 and refined over a 15 year period until 2003. Each year it got better; more powerful, better fuel economy, and kept it's high rating for expected miles. In 2003 Ford/International were forced to produce a "cleaner burning" diesel. So the 6.0 liter was developed with an EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) system to meet the EPA demands. There was less than 2 years testing done on this motor before it was released to the public. In 2003 and early 2004 it had several problems. The issue that was not stated but totally obvious was that the 7.3L was such a reliable motor that people were getting over 300 to 400 thousand miles and more out of them and not buying new trucks, because their 7.3 was still running great. Good for the owners, but not so good for Ford. In our opinion they needed a way to get people buying new diesels again and this was a perfect time. The 6.0 liter was introduced. As a performer it hauled a**!! but it had serious reliability issues: turbos went bad with regularity, head gaskets blew, motors overheated. Maybe in the future we can sell late 2004 and 2005 6.0 liters, but it's too early now and we will NOT sell the earlier models (2003-2004) due to reliability issues. Again, it makes us no money not to sell them. In fact, if you look at our "competitors" they usually have tons of them for sale and very few 7.3L, as the 7.3L are getting harder to find. Do you think a car lot would give you this information even if they did know? They are trained to sell what they have irregardless if it what you need and what will serve you best.. We will help you buy the right truck and avoid a costly mistake/repairs by buying the wrong truck. We sell only high quality pre-owned diesel trucks. We are not some "car lot" that happens to have a few diesels, . Freedom Diesels is the diesel specialist. Who do you think you'd like to deal with? Any technical questions, feel free to contact me, Dan (951) 634-5333 check out this website www.gooddiesels.com , the 7.3 and cummins are the best , the duracrap is still just crap Ohhhhhh my cataracts!!! :mc_smiley: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I12RIDE Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Stock for now, maby wheels and tires and a leveling kit but trailer prevents me from changing much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadracer Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Ohhhhhh my cataracts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandcrab74 Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Im a chevy guy but I own a ford for one reason. Because of the front end ( aka chevy) If I wanted 1/2 ton four wheel drive I would have bought one. Straight axel all the way, but the max and allison are a great combo, but I still smoke them up the hills. BUt of course I had to dump over 3 grand in my tranny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Im a chevy guy but I own a ford for one reason. Because of the front end ( aka chevy) If I wanted 1/2 ton four wheel drive I would have bought one. Straight axel all the way, but the max and allison are a great combo, but I still smoke them up the hills. BUt of course I had to dump over 3 grand in my tranny. and the battle for second place rages on .............................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneycar Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 ford /chevy get a real truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 (edited) ford /chevy get a real truck that has to be towedto the shop 3-4 times a month, like Bob's and my POS dodge that is what I thought you said Edited March 2, 2007 by RICHARDCHEESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bound4Dirt Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 and the battle for second place rages on .............................................................. Second place.... Count the number of Fords towing down Bear Valley compared to the "others". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneycar Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 that is what I thought you said nice chop job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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