Craniacs Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 o.k. I may be opening a big can of worms here but I keep thinking about these dunes everytime I go to dumont. This group is comprised of some smart folks and I wanted to just get everyone thinking about Kelso dunes. You can see these dunes when approaching Baker off to the south. They where closed to us in 1973 - Interim Critical Management Plan and finalized in 1994 - Wilderness Designation, California Desert Protection Act I may be getting too political here and sorry if I am..... but dang these dunes sure look sweet! go here to to read more http://www.duneguide.com/closed_areas_kelso_dunes.htm do you think we could get it reopened? I'm not that grass roots savvy but what the heck? ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don29palms Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 That area is so small I dont think it would be worth the effort to an organization with enough money and power to make a difference. Besides if you look at those dunes up close I don't think they would be all that great to ride on.( That's what I keep telling myself anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craniacs Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 That area is so small I dont think it would be worth the effort to an organization with enough money and power to make a difference. Besides if you look at those dunes up close I don't think they would be all that great to ride on.( That's what I keep telling myself anyway) 129,000 acres? thats pretty big brutha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 I have seen those dunes driving by.. they do look sweet! :rainbow1: I think it would be next to impossible to reopen them though...you know w/ the damn tree huggers and all. :rainbow1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don29palms Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 The actual big dunes area is not that big and that 129000 acres I believe includes the whole wilderness area and not just the dunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craniacs Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) check the size here that little dot is some tree hugger Edited February 24, 2006 by Craniacs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino king Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 what about the dunes off highway 180 :rainbow1: :rainbow1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 what about the dunes off highway 180 :rainbow1: :rainbow1: you mean 127 jackass! :shocked2: :shocked2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craniacs Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 the whole mojave reserve is 1.4 million acres..did you go to the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino king Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 you mean 127 jackass! :rainbow1: :rainbow1: no im serious 180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 no im serious 180 oh ok , i thought you were referring to Dumont when you didn't know where I was talking about that time when I mentioned (jokingly) about thos dunes off HWY 127 :rainbow1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craniacs Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 pronouncing this post dead... :rainbow1: you know when yourt post died when the drink topic out posts you! haHahHHhaA! :rainbow1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don29palms Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 (edited) Everytime I go to Dumont I go right by the Kelso Dunes. When I look at those dunes and know that they are closed to OHV I just want to slap the shiat out of some dumba$$ tree huggers. God help us when the Democrats get back into office. Those idiots like Al Gore want to close anythings that has to do with gas powered vehicles. They want us all to go hiking and hug trees and talk to the flowers and stuff like that. Well I only have one thing to say to those Green Peace a$$holes and that is :rainbow1: and die. We as an off road community have rights too. When they start talking about shutting down areas like Dumont because of some supid bug that might exists it really gets me mad. There is so much area out in these deserts that people don't even want to fly over in a plane but that isn't good enough for the enviromentalists. They want it all and you can't have any. These ECO TERRORISTS are a very small part of the general population and they all should be eradicated but if that happened they would be put on the endangered species list and you wouldn't even be able to mention them anymore for fear of being sued. If anyone personally knows anyone of these tree huggers do me a favor and smack them as hard as you can right in the teeth and then tell them to get an effin life and leave us alone. Sorry. I digress Edited February 24, 2006 by Don29palms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Kelso Dunes are on the national registry. Getting them off now would be pretty much impossible. I am sorry to say as I would love to have them open. Just think of the pressure it would take off of Dumont. Crowds split between the two, hmmm be real nice. However after conversations with people who mess with this stuff for a living I think we should pay our attention to just hanging on to Dumont. FoDD is now accepting memberships $24.00 per year per family and $100.00 per yr. for businesses. Throw your support to FoDD and help us keep the space we play in. If you look at a map that was done 20 yrs ago even 10 yrs ago and a recent one that show' closeures you will be shocked. Dumont is about the center ring of a closed area. They are coming after the ring believe me. It's not hard to become active! Let me know and I will get you all a membership application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 Everytime I go to Dumont I go right by the Kelso Dunes. When I look at those dunes and know that they are closed to OHV I just want to slap the shiat out of some dumba$$ tree huggers. God help us when the Democrats get back into office. Those idiots like Al Gore want to close anythings that has to do with gas powered vehicles. They want us all to go hiking and hug trees and talk to the flowers and stuff like that. Well I only have one thing to say to those Green Peace a$$holes and that is :rainbow1: and die. We as an off road community have rights too. When they start talking about shutting down areas like Dumont because of some supid bug that might exists it really gets me mad. There is so much area out in these deserts that people don't even want to fly over in a plane but that isn't good enough for the enviromentalists. They want it all and you can't have any. These ECO TERRORISTS are a very small part of the general population and they all should be eradicated but if that happened they would be put on the endangered species list and you wouldn't even be able to mention them anymore for fear of being sued. If anyone personally knows anyone of these tree huggers do me a favor and smack them as hard as you can right in the teeth and then tell them to get an effin life and leave us alone. Sorry. I digress Well said, Don! :rainbow1: Kelso Dunes are on the national registry. Getting them off now would be pretty much impossible. I am sorry to say as I would love to have them open. Just think of the pressure it would take off of Dumont. Crowds split between the two, hmmm be real nice. However after conversations with people who mess with this stuff for a living I think we should pay our attention to just hanging on to Dumont. FoDD is now accepting memberships $24.00 per year per family and $100.00 per yr. for businesses. Throw your support to FoDD and help us keep the space we play in. If you look at a map that was done 20 yrs ago even 10 yrs ago and a recent one that show' closeures you will be shocked. Dumont is about the center ring of a closed area. They are coming after the ring believe me. It's not hard to become active! Let me know and I will get you all a membership application. I'll take one, Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross and Alice Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 They were at one time rideable,, but now,,, pretty much forget it unless the offroad movement can get more media exposure and can get some momentum going. It'll not happen in our lifetimes,,,, look how hard it is to try and re-open the closeure in Glamis. Sandemon on dumontsanddunes.com is the expert on Kelso. We've discussed an re opening,,, but it would take an unbelieveable media and money, and lobby and lawsuit court battle. We have our hands full just keeping what we've got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandBox_Kid Posted February 24, 2006 Share Posted February 24, 2006 check the size here that little dot is some tree hugger I see tracks on those dunes....right to the top and over! I've seen those dunes from the road and wondered......now I know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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