fyrpm Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Those of you that have duallies and bumper pull trailers, Do you release the torsion bars on the hitch when you go in the sand. The reason i ask is that, last weekend i was out and got stuck with 4x4 in the sand. All my friends have single rear tires and 4x4 and 5th wheels. they drove circles around me. The only thing i can think of is the torsion bars taking to much weight off the rear of my truck. My truck is stock, and it buried it self quick, The limited slip works well. The only other thing is maybe air down. Im trying anything now, I dont want to replace the tires for wider and bigger ones until i have worn out the ones on there. Any advice thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320 Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I dont pull a tag. I pull a real large goose neck. Ive never been stuck. I dont even air down. I run my tires ussually at 75psi. What you say, does make some sence though, regarding the load leveling bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoparMan Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 We have a Dodge dually and a WW SLC 3705 5er and we air down the WW TO 25 LB and the TV to 50 LB and no problem just can't turn to sharp to much drag on TV and might pop a bead on the trailer no problems in the last 25 years. Hope this helps Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 the weird part is duallies put more rubber to the ground and it should out performe single wheel trucks. in soft stuff it has more places to disperse weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aseman Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 As per the other topics in the forum, the torsion (weight distr.) bars should be removed before heading into the sand; especially on a dually, when you want most of the tongue weight on the rear tires. U may also risk damaging your trailer tongue/frame area by not doing so. :freakin_nuts: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandpirates2 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 (edited) As per the other topics in the forum, the torsion (weight distr.) bars should be removed before heading into the sand; especially on a dually, when you want most of the tongue weight on the rear tires. U may also risk damaging your trailer tongue/frame area by not doing so. I've got two buddies that have Duallies and when we hit PISMO, they also disconnect the torsion bars, otherwise they said it would tear up the trailer and hitch, plus it puts the weight back onto the axle of the truck. They also air-down to 25 on the TV and 35 on the trucks and theyre pulling 38 tags... but I dont think they air-down at Dumont unless we pull into the deep stuff.... but they always disconnect the bars at the entrance of Dumont road. Good Luck Edited January 22, 2008 by Sandpirates2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 granted, im not pullin a monster trailer out to the dunes, but when i got the 2500hd....i ditched the weight dist package if you are speaking of dumont...you shouldnt even have to air down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrpm Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 Found the fix. Thanks guys. 1. Get new tires ( 265 70 18 toyo mud terrian). Generals SUCK in the sand. got 40k out of them. 2. Air down from 80 psi to 40 psi 3. Remove torsion bars. 4. Watch were you go, get out and walk it. ( Most Important) 5. Dont go alone (just in case) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXDOUT Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 I used to drive my dually through the sand with the tires air down only. I never had any issues. And I never touched the torsion bars. But again, its how you drive in the sand while pulling. experience counts I guess.............. :shocked2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) Maybe a silly question but here goes any way. I understand airing down the truck tires to get a bigger contact patch on the ground, but what's the point of airing down the trailer tires? Thanks, Lance Edited April 12, 2008 by Lance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Maybe a silly question but here goes any way. I understand airing down the truck tires to get a bigger contact patch on the ground, but what's the point of airing down the trailer tires? Thanks, Lance Pretty much for the same reason. Its so the trailer tires don't sink as much and begin to plow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britincali Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Where you go in dumont makes a BIG difference, Ive got a 2wd truck and a 20ft travel trailer. Ive been to dumont probably 15 times with the trailer and never got stuck untill the last trip out, my buddies camp was almost at the base of the big dune on the left of the entrance to comp/banshee, it was mega soft and my truck buried itself hardcore. I had to dig the hitch out of the sand so I could get unhooked and towed out. If I dont go in that close im normally fine. My usual thing is to stop by the ranger station and air down to 20 or so PSI and then keep it nailed in the soft stuff, even this doesnt work close to the dunes tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCGYVER Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Yep, when u can find em (and afford em) ditch the duallies for one fatty in the back. Cruising a dually in the sand, is like trying to ride a 10 speed in the sand - no bueno !!! - did it once there at the D , never again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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