midtravel Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I have a 2002 F350 4x4 dually just bought it. I have a 35 ft toyhauler was wondering if i need bags. I havent pulled the trailer yet, and was wondering if it will help or not to have air bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 try to tow it first... if you get front to back action, or if your hauler squats your rear, then airbags will help you out in those situations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 my buddy (faster daddy) has an 03 f350 pulling a 40' ww and he wishes he had them . they sure help my dodge i wouls say it would be a + to have them but not an absolute necseity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I have an '06 F-350 dually and a 40' Warrior. I recommend getting the air bags not because it pulls funny or anything but on the 1 ton trucks there are 2 sets of springs, one for empty to be smooth cruising down the highway and then the actual 1 ton springs that are more like overloads you would add on. The weight of the trailer will drop the truck 2 or 3 inches before it gets to the stiff springs and your headlights will be way high. I didn't think I needed them until I made a trip at night and in about 60 miles got flashed for bright lights 43 times, so unless you want to adjust your lights every time I suggest you get them. They're not very expensive and super easy to install yourself. Also if you do get them I would suggest the onboard compressor to fill them, it isn't needed but makes life sooo much easier. A good place to hide the switch and gauge assembly is in the glove box on the left hand side where it's narrower to keep the dash clear. If you'd like I can post some pics of how I did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I agree with Cheese. Try it first and c how it does. When I first got my Weekend Warrior(37 footer) I had an F350 dually. It was fine, the truck only squated a few inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandBox_Kid Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I agree with Cheese. Try it first and c how it does. When I first got my Weekend Warrior(37 footer) I had an F350 dually. It was fine, the truck only squated a few inches. I did the same thing with my 2500HD. It was ok when hooked up.....stayed fairly level, but when I would hit some dips the up and down motion was a bit much. Adding the bags made life nice after that, but I wouldn't waste the money or time until you try it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I agree with Cheese. Try it first and c how it does. When I first got my Weekend Warrior(37 footer) I had an F350 dually. It was fine, the truck only squated a few inches. WTF is wrong with you? are you on drugs again? youre actually agreeing with me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 WTF is wrong with you? are you on drugs again? youre actually agreeing with me??? No bro, once in a blue moon you are correct about something!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarbyCrash Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I have bags on my 2500 but did not have them on the 1 ton dually I had. 3500 ran and pulled fine without them the 2500 needed the help. I'd for go the compresser if you did get them, just something else to break and it only takes me about 30 seconds to fill them myself when I hook up my 36 ft 5th. Just so you have a heads up, bags will make it real stiff on a 3500 when you air them up to pull. You already have a stiff ride to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 No bro, once in a blue moon you are correct about something!!!!! right? you mean you actually have to know what you are talking about to post in a thread like this??? damn....ADMIN you need to subtract about 3k posts from my total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtravel Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thanks everyone for the help. Hooked the trailer up this morn and it did drop the truck about 3 inches. So i put bags on today. Going to Pismo thursday so i will find out if they work or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandBox_Kid Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 right? you mean you actually have to know what you are talking about to post in a thread like this??? damn....ADMIN you need to subtract about 3k posts from my total I'll get right on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I'll get right on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 btw larry bought some bags and installed them...it was on GD.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQUnlimited Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 My 04 2500 sierra dropped BIG time with my 38' trailer....what gives? I had no choice but to install bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptNkllm Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I have an '06 F-350 dually and a 40' Warrior. I recommend getting the air bags not because it pulls funny or anything but on the 1 ton trucks there are 2 sets of springs, one for empty to be smooth cruising down the highway and then the actual 1 ton springs that are more like overloads you would add on. The weight of the trailer will drop the truck 2 or 3 inches before it gets to the stiff springs and your headlights will be way high. I didn't think I needed them until I made a trip at night and in about 60 miles got flashed for bright lights 43 times, so unless you want to adjust your lights every time I suggest you get them. They're not very expensive and super easy to install yourself. Also if you do get them I would suggest the onboard compressor to fill them, it isn't needed but makes life sooo much easier. A good place to hide the switch and gauge assembly is in the glove box on the left hand side where it's narrower to keep the dash clear. If you'd like I can post some pics of how I did it. post some pics please as i might install mine on fri...(sitting in the garage right now) My 04 2500 sierra dropped BIG time with my 38' trailer....what gives? I had no choice but to install bags. depends on the lift kit (if you have and what brand and a little on who installed it). I have a 6" lift on my truck...towed the 5er (16000 lb) was good for a year of towing and now it is lowered about 3" when trailer is on. Getting old I guess. Capt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 post some pics please as i might install mine on fri...(sitting in the garage right now) Capt I'll have to take some of the gauge install tomorrow when it's light out, damn digital camera doesn't feel like working so I'm stuck with the cell phone camera for now. Oh and just for info it is way easier to install the bags with the bed off the truck. Just so happened that when I decided to get them I had also decided to go with a flatbed and after I helped a friend put his on a couple months later with the bed on sure mad it tight even with the wheels off. Just pull the bed bolts and there's a couple plugs behind the bumper and it's off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 MY BAGS HAVE THE ONBOARD COMPRESSOR 3 years works great. just remember if you have 30 pounds of air in your bag and then put the trailer on it will jump to 50 or 60 pounds depending on the extra weight. also theres a point where you get enough lift and yet no to stiff. you over fill your bags youll be riding on rocks lol. cool thing about the onboard compressor you can adjust accordingly. with no load i run 4 pounds in my bags. your supposed to keep some air in your bags at all times . 4 pounds makes my truck ride better. but every truck is different so youll have to adjust accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) Hey Capt, sorry I forgot to take pics but it's fairly easy to explain. on the left side of the glove box it narrows down to just a few inches front to back and the gauge and switch plate fits almost perfectly. Drill a hole about 1/2 inch through the back of the glove box for the air line and the power wire for the compressor. Mount the switch plate to the back of the glove box with the supplied screws. Personally I mounted the compressor under the hood on the passenger side fender well, there's only one place it will fit there so it's not hard to figure out. I then ran the power wire and the air line to the gauge inside the top of the fender into the A pillar and then behind the dash behind the glove box. I ran the air line to the bags straight down to the frame and back along the passenger side frame rail to the rear axle mounted the tee so it goes straight to the passenger side and tee's off to the driver's side. Just make sure you keep the line away from the exhaust and leave enough slack for the suspension to move and not pull on it. Lots of zip ties work wonders for keeping it up out of the way of everything. Edited April 3, 2008 by beau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXDOUT Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) You really shouldn't need air on a dually. Might just add a add-a-leaf. Edited April 3, 2008 by maxdout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beau Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 :6pak: You really shouldn't need air on a dually. Might just add a add-a-leaf. It's not that it needs it, the bags just help level out the truck with the trailer hooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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