sandawg Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) [ I have everything done except the feeder line laid. The trench is dug too. I have the materials for that, and the wires run in conduit for the light switch and swamp cooler on a GFI circuit, the outlets on another 30 amp circuit and the 220 outlet for the compressor in the shop. No manual labor needed, just someone to draw me a diagram of how to finish it up. The older main box (20 plus years) has red, black, white and bare ground. I guess code now wants, black, white, green. Don't know how to hook to the main and how to hook up the sub pannel with the new color codes. Any help greatly appreciated and a nice lunch in Henderson, cold beer, or a strong Rum and Coke, or water or soda, your choice, for the one that comes forward. I can take pictures of the sub pannel and the main pannel if you think it can be done on line too. I have my pernit and want to finish it up so I can get ready for the kick off day and thanksgiving weekend. I've been on this shop since Jan of this year and this is the final chore I have. I am just running three #2 wires to the shop because I have the ufer ground rod in place. Just don't know for sure how to hook the wires up. Thanks, Pat College and 95-Mission Hills. Edited September 28, 2008 by SANDAWG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXDOUT Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I can help you out. PM me your info. I can send the guys. It might not be for beer though. But, its better than opening the yellow pages. Seriously, I can take care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SASCO Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I have everything done except the feeder line laid. The trench is dug too. I have the materials for that, and the wires run in conduit for the light switch and swamp cooler on a GFI circuit, the outlets on another 30 amp circuit and the 220 outlet for the compressor in the shop. No manual labor needed, just someone to draw me a diagram of how to finish it up. The older main box (20 plus years) has red, black, white and bare ground. I guess code now wants, black, white, green. Don't know how to hook to the main and how to hook up the sub pannel with the new color codes. Any help greatly appreciated and a nice lunch in Henderson, cold beer, or a strong Rum and Coke, or water or soda, your choice, for the one that comes forward. I can take pictures of the sub pannel and the main pannel if you think it can be done on line too. I have my pernit and want to finish it up so I can get ready for the kick off day and thanksgiving weekend. I've been on this shop since Jan of this year and this is the final chore I have. I am just running three #2 wires to the shop because I have the ufer ground rod in place. Just don't know for sure how to hook the wires up. Thanks, Pat College and 95-Mission Hills. Send me some pictures and i`ll draw how to hook it up and send them back to you.Inless you have already figured it out or someone else has done it for you.It is easy to do once you see it done.Or you could go to the home depot and get one of those COOL Joe home owner video`s and try,NOT!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 Send me some pictures and i`ll draw how to hook it up and send them back to you.Inless you have already figured it out or someone else has done it for you.It is easy to do once you see it done.Or you could go to the home depot and get one of those COOL Joe home owner video`s and try,NOT!!!!!!!! Thanks, I know it will be easier if I just see it. I'll take the pix today and get them to you. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 Thanks, I know it will be easier if I just see it. I'll take the pix today and get them to you. Pat Private Message on the way with pictures. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 (edited) Send me some pictures and i`ll draw how to hook it up and send them back to you.Inless you have already figured it out or someone else has done it for you.It is easy to do once you see it done.Or you could go to the home depot and get one of those COOL Joe home owner video`s and try,NOT!!!!!!!! Damn double post!!! I'm not sure the PM went so am posting this here too. Here is the new photo with the common in the right place. Is this right so far? Will run red and blk from double pull breaker in main to sub as shown. All power 220 and 110, no breaker in sub. White from white in main to white in sub as shown. 220 2 pull 30 amp for compressor only on right, 20 gfi and 30 on left in sub. Now just to wire the outlets and switch. Verbal should be fine so you don't have to do a drawing, your choice. Thanks again for yur help!! Edited September 29, 2008 by SANDAWG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EY3BA11 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 im no electrician but something doesnt quite look right with those photo's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Rhino Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I was thinking the same thing no electrician, but that panel does 't look correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EY3BA11 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 The one thing that stands out is a common (white) going to a breaker!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandslayer Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Make sure that the neutral bus bar is isolated from the panel. Do not connect the grounding bar and neutral bar together. The GFCI breaker is wired incorrectly take the coiled white wire on the GFCI breaker and land it on the neutral bar and take the neutral for the circuit and land it on the neutral load terminal on the GFCI breaker. The bare ground coming from your ground rod can touch the panel. I would buy a grounding bushing and put it on the the 1-1/4" or 2" pipe that is entering the panel (can't tell pipe size from pics). Once the grounding bushing is on run the bare ground from your ground rod through the lug provided with the bushing then to your grounding bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 I was thinking the same thing no electrician, but that panel does 't look correct? Your both right, I am putting up the picture, I had the white on the wring buss. The white you see is the leg from the Ground fault. Thanks for catching it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandslayer Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 The white you see on the breaker is correct if you are running a 208 volt compressor or a welder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EY3BA11 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 the other thing that looks out of place is your 220 circuit.. shouldnt you have 2 hots, common, and ground? Or am i mistaken on that as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas FX400 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 uhhhhhhhh..............yea. that's thats what i was thinkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandslayer Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 SANDAWG- Please be very careful once you are making your final connections at your main panel electricity is nothing to take for granted. Being an electrician trust me anything can happen i have seen people get electrocuted. I would suggest to get a qualified electrician to make the final connections at your main panel. :ah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandslayer Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Usually a common (neutral) is not required unless the piece of equipment calls for it. Most commercial kitchen equipment requires a neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 Usually a common (neutral) is not required unless the piece of equipment calls for it. Most commercial kitchen equipment requires a neutral. thanks for the help Sandslayer. I am getting the 1st inspection for the trench and feeder wire and conduit and will hit up the inspector on how he wants me to do the final hook up. "No Fear" doesn't apply to me with electricity. I will be carefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 The one thing that stands out is a common (white) going to a breaker!! That white wire you see on the left is the GFI circut. The other is 220 out from a double pull breaker with black and white being the hot wires. Pretty sure that is right. Matches up to the red and black coming from the main box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 The white you see on the breaker is correct if you are running a 208 volt compressor or a welder. compressor is only 15 amps and 220 with a 30ammp breaker double pull/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 28, 2008 Author Share Posted September 28, 2008 Make sure that the neutral bus bar is isolated from the panel. Do not connect the grounding bar and neutral bar together. The GFCI breaker is wired incorrectly take the coiled white wire on the GFCI breaker and land it on the neutral bar and take the neutral for the circuit and land it on the neutral load terminal on the GFCI breaker. The bare ground coming from your ground rod can touch the panel. I would buy a grounding bushing and put it on the the 1-1/4" or 2" pipe that is entering the panel (can't tell pipe size from pics). Once the grounding bushing is on run the bare ground from your ground rod through the lug provided with the bushing then to your grounding bar. Yeh, I cut the bar going from one side to the other and made the common the one on the left insulated side. Took out the one screwed to the box and used the green ground to the UFER rod and equipment ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted September 30, 2008 Author Share Posted September 30, 2008 Yeh, I cut the bar going from one side to the other and made the common the one on the left insulated side. Took out the one screwed to the box and used the green ground to the UFER rod and equipment ground. I have it handeled, thanks to all for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandawg Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 (edited) I have it handeled, thanks to all for the help. Ah sh*t, where did the dog go? Well, this epic pictorial is over now. I have power to the shop and working. :porn: Operating engineers and heavy equipment or dirt people in general. Your job is safe. You have my sympathy. I bounced around in the small Bobcat only 4 hours and it will take this old body days to get over it!!! Feel like I've been a bar fight and lost!!!! If I knew I would live to be this old, I would have taken better care of myself when I was young. Thanks to all that helped! Edited October 7, 2008 by SANDAWG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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