MQUnlimited Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) I see a lot of people crying about closures, but I don't see many people willing to do anything about it. Lucerne valley is in real danger guys/gals...can you all PLEASE take one friday evening out of your schedules and join in attending a public BLM meeting in Victorville, Oct. 24th, from either 1:00-4:00 PM, or 6:00-9:00 PM? I am dissapointed in our "community" as a whole...bit%$ing between different "cliques" or groups and crying on the internet about closures and tree huggers is not going to do a da!@ bit of good. Posted also in DD.com, and GD.com Edited October 2, 2008 by MQUnlimited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dune Dad Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) I see a lot of people crying about closures, but I don't see many people willing to do anything about it. Lucerne valley is in real danger guys/gals...can you all PLEASE take one friday evening out of your schedules and join in attending a public BLM meeting in Victorville, Oct. 24th, from either 1:00-4:00 PM, or 6:00-9:00 PM? I am dissapointed in our "community" as a whole...bit%$ing between different "cliques" or groups and crying on the internet about closures and tree huggers is not going to do a da!@ bit of good. Posted also in DD.com, and GD.com OK... I get that not a lot of people do much about the areas being closed down... But what is going to be closed? Is it johnson Valley or Slash X area, Or what? Im not being a smart A$$.. Just really want to know whats up.. It seems like every time we go out to ride another area is being closed down or locked out for the season!!! I was thinking... Seeing that the Tree huggers and the Sierra "Pukes" can cry about an endangered bug or plant that gets another riding area closed down... We should be able to have open season on these groups.. I think its only fair... This is if they think that they can take away another are from us!!!! What the Hell are we paying taxes for and all these off-road fees and green/Red sticker fees and ..... Dont mean to sound so :angry2: :argue: But Damn... Anyway... Let us know whats up... Edited October 2, 2008 by Dune Family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQUnlimited Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 (edited) OK... I get that not a lot of people do much about the areas being closed down... But what is going to be closed? Is it johnson Valley or Slash X area, Or what? Let us know whats up... The Department of the Navy, as required by the 1958 Engle Act, filed an application requesting the Secretary of the Interior to process a proposed withdrawal of public lands for military training and exercises involving the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center at Twentynine Palms. The proposal seeks to withdraw approximately 366,000 acres of federal public land and, if eventually acquired, approximately 72,000 acres of non-federally owned property within the proposed withdrawal area. I cant find a map but this is what I could find... This includes the area off Bessimer Mine Rd./Sogge Dry lake as well as Cougar Buttes, Anderson Dry Lake, all the way to Camp Rock Rd. Basically the whole enchilada will be off limits This is if they think that they can take away another are from us!!!! What the Hell are we paying taxes for and all these off-road fees and green/Red sticker fees You are seriously calling this BS????........http://www.marines.mil/units/hqmc/Pages/Ma...Management.aspx I know this isnt sand dunes but its awesome out there to ride and watch the MDR races.... Edited October 2, 2008 by MQUnlimited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dune Dad Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Yes.. I do think its that they may close down The Johnson Valley area... We go to Johnson Valley 10 to 20 times a year... WTF!!! I will be at whatever meeting about these possible closures... Please keep us up on the info!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandSoulja Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 hey... i live there... chit... Don't trip potato trip....yalls can camp in my backyard. seriously though...i heard that the marines gave up on that shiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MQUnlimited Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 WOW....okay, later then. Here is the map......took forever to find it. Westside Eastside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunefreak Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 WOW....okay, later then. You seem to be getting pissed off at those that replied. How come? Am I reading that wrong? :argue: When everyone says it's , I don't necessarily think they are saying you are lying about it. They are just pissed to hear an area is getting closed. At least that's how I read it. :angry2: Anyways, thanks for the update. That really sucks if it happens. Anytime we are in danger of losing ANY riding areas, even if I don't ride there, it's never a good thing and I hate hearing about it. I wish I could attend the meeting, but I will be out of town that weekend. Is there anything else we can do for those that can't make it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot bob Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I see a lot of people crying about closures, but I don't see many people willing to do anything about it. Lucerne valley is in real danger guys/gals...can you all PLEASE take one friday evening out of your schedules and join in attending a public BLM meeting in Victorville, Oct. 24th, from either 1:00-4:00 PM, or 6:00-9:00 PM? I am dissapointed in our "community" as a whole...bit%$ing between different "cliques" or groups and crying on the internet about closures and tree huggers is not going to do a da!@ bit of good. Posted also in DD.com, and GD.com ill go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 it seems that every riding area is under constant scrutiny by various organizations that want to see our riding areas CLOSED, not reduced, CLOSED. this has been going on for decades, and nary a victory on our side methinks we are going about this the wrong way sometimes i think out loud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI_DESERT_DDR Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm down to go. Johnson Valley is where I do most of my riding, matter of fact I will be there for the poker run this weekend and will keep my ears open to see if I hear anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britincali Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Ok im trying to weigh this up from a greenie point of view... Bikes and quads = BAD 70 ton tanks and live fire range = OK :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyvw Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 wheres the meeting located? i was just on the hammer trails last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisclan Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Ok im trying to weigh this up from a greenie point of view... Bikes and quads = BAD 70 ton tanks and live fire range = OK :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: Yeah whats up with that crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewisclan Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 29 palms MCAGCC is the largest Marine base in the world allready with 920 sq miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Cheese Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Ok im trying to weigh this up from a greenie point of view... Bikes and quads = BAD 70 ton tanks and live fire range = OK :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: this is one thing that the greenies dont support either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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