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Iv been watching the Presidential Debate. I seems like the same old :poop:

I know this is a delicate subject... But I feel that one wants to with draw from the middle east and the other wants to finish it...

They both address the Economic troubles :beercheers: but Im not really hearing a real solution right now.... :(

What are you thoughts on the debate........

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Let me be clear on this.............

I am not into politics, I am all about keeping my guns and ammo, and I fully support the troops. My brother was a Navy Seal for over 7 years. :blury: :porn: :think:

My vote...I will say it...Obama!!!

Sounds weird, why???

it is time for a change people. Who am I to say??? He just seems to have a better grasp on what really is goin on out there. And, for the record..................I am not trying to spark a debate...I just want to go to the dunes. :dunno: :stir: :beercheers:

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Let me be clear on this.............

I am not into politics, I am all about keeping my guns and ammo, and I fully support the troops. My brother was a Navy Seal for over 7 years. :blury: :porn: :think:

My vote...I will say it...Obama!!!

Sounds weird, why???

it is time for a change people. Who am I to say??? He just seems to have a better grasp on what really is goin on out there. And, for the record..................I am not trying to spark a debate...I just want to go to the dunes. :dunno: :stir: :beercheers:

With him it's this --

Change= Could'ya Help A Ni%%er Get Elected?

Not trying to offend anyone here- I got that in a text message and thought it was funny.

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With him it's this --

Change= Could'ya Help A Ni%%er Get Elected?

Not trying to offend anyone here- I got that in a text message and thought it was funny.

I'm offended Tim. :chkn:

Cuz you didn't sent the text to me. :beercheers:

JK it's all good. BTW I think Cole had your back anyways. :thumb:

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I've been following this race for a while now, but I'm not touching this topic with a ten foot pole!!!!! :chkn: It's a good way to make enemies real quick!!!!!

WAIT............I think I hear the dunes calling my name!!!!! :thumb::beercheers: :fro_smokin: :stir: :yiah:

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I'm offended Tim. :chkn:

Cuz you didn't sent the text to me. :beercheers:

JK it's all good. BTW I think Cole had your back anyways. :booty:

:kitty:

randog's offended cause he IS a :booty:

:porn:

anyway...i wasnt happy with the pieces of :poop: they trotted out for a run @ the president this year. im considering not even voting this year :thumb:

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omg how on earth can any you possibly think obama is the right guy ??

you guys are not researching anything. that :chkn: :clown: campaighn recieved huge funding from fanny may/mac why ?? because he was one of the one protecting them when people were blowing the wistle saying these people are out of control.

he wants to tell pakistan that hes going in that gets more soldiers killed . you dont rattle off your strategy.

way to help binladen.

carter (democrat) wanted to dump dollars into regulating and guess what we went into recession.

do you really really want to wait for green alternatives thats not an overnight ordeal.

he is bsing, hes clueless, he is a good orator where mcain isnt. hes gonna lip flap his way in and we will be in trouble. he has offered nothing new.

if you raise the taxes on big bussines do you really think big bussines is going to pay for it ?? wake up !!

we will pay for it through inflation when big bussines raises the price for the goods there selling to make up for it !!!!

you relly should look into his dealings with the cra and freddymac. he is not bi partisan .

they try to regulate healthcare guess what we will pay for it.

he is also one who adds goodies and add ons to bills going through congress.

then ponts at mcain and screams he didnt vote for helpfull legislation. ya cause they earmarked it full of goodies.

they (obama/democrats) stopped the investigation of fanny/freddymac and then scream it was de regulation.

you guys need to read more and whats going on :kitty:

if we drill we cant solve our dependence but we can lower fuel prices.

nuclear energy is green creates jobs and reduces oil use. how many more years has san onofree need to operate before we figure that out ???

his record shows zero change nothing zip all of a sudden hes going to change change what ???

democratic congress has stalled cajoled and help fk up our econemy probably more than bush.

dems have control in the senate what have they done ?? NOTHING!! except take good legislation load it with personal pet project funding and then when it gets shot down they scream foul !!!

and probably one of the most ignorant thing he said. we have been going into deficet since bush came to office.

well of course you dumb :B :thumb: we went to war. it costs big money it took big money. bush,s economic policies do suck i wont deny that. But you can trace the extra costs to that back to clinton (dem)

with failed cowerdice foreighn policy , and non funding of our military which includes intelligence dept.

the democrats are as culpable as bush in these problems. suddenly iraq didnt deserve to be attacked. like theres a diferent breed of alquieda there. " o look thats one of those iragi alquiedas there harmless. just those aphgan alquiedas are the bad ones." gimme a effen break. :beercheers:

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well of course you dumb :B :beercheers: we went to war.

lost my interest right there...

i do agree with you on all the points and i think obama is not the right man...but I'm good with out racial bashing...

actually i wish mcain was black...that'd be my vote for sure..

THE ONE REASON I'M DOUBTING MCcAIN IS THAT I DONT KNOW IF I CAN HANDLE THAT STUPI FUGGIN WHISTLE SOUND HE MAKES EVERY TIME HE SAYS A "S"

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:beercheers: Hey Bob - I agree, if we have serious issues, I want a guy who actually knows what the military is all about, and knows the players. If the Obama team gets elected, were all going to scream when those tax cuts which we've all enjoyed, are the first thing to hit the street...... The second issue is look at whom the Greenie's Hang With......I believe that it's Boxer and Fienstien who are the main drivers here for all of the "Greenie's" who are driven to shut us down on Pismo and Dumont as well as many others.....So if you think our position on keeping these A$$hole groups out of our riding areas are bad now, put one of them in office and see how much more our issues fall to deaf ears......

:chkn: SP2 Mike

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lost my interest right there...

i do agree with you on all the points and i think obama is not the right man...but I'm good with out racial bashing...

actually i wish mcain was black...that'd be my vote for sure..

THE ONE REASON I'M DOUBTING MCcAIN IS THAT I DONT KNOW IF I CAN HANDLE THAT STUPI FUGGIN WHISTLE SOUND HE MAKES EVERY TIME HE SAYS A "S"

i certainly wasnt pointing to it as racial. take it more a kin to the big afroed story tellin con artists out there talking there big goofey games. yellin and tellin. i do feel obama is an a$$ if he thinks i believe his rhetoric.

i dont think that a black person could not handle the job. on the contrary if collin powel would have run i would be giving him my consideration.

its not obamas race its his lip flapping that adds up to nothing. and is frutrating to see so many sheepple falling for it.

his record is a reflection of what we can expect for the future.

add to it his inexperiance

and yes mcain does not express himself well, he never looks relaxed . but that old goat is smart. he has pissed off his own party and well as dems.and what we dont see is how pissed off he gets at the bullshit in washington.

he is supported by the republican party but he is obviously pissed at G.B. as well.

I think there is potential in the man ( black or white) and i believe hes laying low but if he gets in he is going to piss off republicans and democrats. and he already hinted at it. with his statement " if they try to add goodies to a bill i will veto it and you will know there names"

im listed as independent. i dont "believe " in the republican party. but this election is very imortant. so voting for an independent that doesnt stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected could aid obama.

i think mcains actions will speak for him. ( while not perfect) i think he is the right choice he likes to piss off the cronies that are killing this country.

also if we stand any chance of stopping the greenies mcain / palin are the ones. if they can truly block speacial intrests that hurts the sierra club. palins husband is an outdoorsmen into powersports. there already tellin eff the greenies drill baby drill. nuclear power. our public lands stand a chance of surviving more with that ticket than obama. although this last paragraph is more speculation than any hard facts ive read. it does make sense.

ps. as for his "s"es look at the bright side he will be using them on congress. like stupid shitheads stop supplying sh*t spending. :beercheers:

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I didn't watch much of the debate (working), I listened to some of it on the radio. It sounded like a lot of finger-pointing and bickering, and pretty short on specifics. As for the elephant in the room (the economy), I guess it must have been invisible... Jeez guys, how hard is it to show some sack and just tell us what the f**k you'd do as President?

A year ago I was McCain all the way. I'm still leaning McCain, but he's done very little to show me he's ready for prime-time. I'm really hoping that his "maverick" streak reappears sometime soon, all this shameless pandering to the far right makes me ill. As far as Palin goes, I hope that McCain stays reeeeeeally healthy...

Obama seems to be a decent-enough candidate, as far as that goes. He is more moderate than say, a Gore or Kerry. That being said, he's still a Democrat, and bad things tend to happen when the same party has both houses on the Hill and the White House. See "Carter, Jimmy" for an example.

The GOP needs to get back to its roots of fiscal discipline. We've spent the past eight years borrowing our way to "prosperity," and now it's time to cough up the vig...

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FYI, i hope you guys know that mccain is just as much an enviromentalist as obama, if not more. thats part of his "maverick" style people like.

drilling, nuclear power, speacial intrest. i find it hard to believe seeing that all of those listed go against the sierra clubs beleifs :beercheers: have you found anything we might be able to read up on that ????

heres what i found straight from the sierra clubs websight

http://www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releas...r2008-02-21.asp

they dont like him at all :chkn:

just one more reason to vote for mccain

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The liberal media will not let McCain be elected. If all you watch is NBC,MSNBC,CNN,etc. :beercheers:

You would believe Obama is the greatest. Everybody should look at facts instead of listening to the media.

Watch FOX!!! LOL

For the most part republicans have a bad habit of whining about liberal press....but considering...they've done pretty good against it the last two elections.

so that idea is kida outta my mind...msnbc actually has some good republican shows...

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oh and theres this too

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06...-endorse-obama/

i think we should ask the senator McCain directly . i just did !!! :D lets see what he saise :blah:

:chkn: :thumb: What really bothers me..... :kitty: :booty: neither one of them can answer a straight question :blah::blah: and that just means they are both just flat out puppets. :blah: Its politics... say what you think americans want to hear and do what your pals with the money, special intrest groups and lobbiest tell them. :blah::blah: If you really listen to them, :?: there saying the same thing :booty: just in different circles. :blah: This election is odd normally you really want one to win :beercheers: but this year I dont want either one of them :blah: I just love my open areas and the dunes thats that :porn: .

For once can we get a pres that can independently think :blah: and function as a leader :blah: not a listener!!! :moon:

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:rockwoot::banghead: What really bothers me..... :thumb::barf: neither one of them can answer a straight question :blah::blah: and that just means they are both just flat out puppets. :loser: Its politics... say what you think americans want to hear and do what your pals with the money, special intrest groups and lobbiest tell them. :porn: :porn: If you really listen to them, :?: there saying the same thing :dope: just in different circles. :kitty: This election is odd normally you really want one to win :beercheers: but this year I dont want either one of them :banghead: I just love my open areas and the dunes thats that :lol: .

For once can we get a pres that can independently think :idea: and function as a leader :banghead: not a listener!!! :usa:

well then if you really dont care consider this sierra club hates mccain

sierra club loves obama

any questions???????? :blink:

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