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May be a repeat.....but I just do not understand why people are falling for this kind of BS!!!

He spends huge amounts of money to "buy" your vote.

Be careful people. It is not always what it seems. He is only a good salesman. And I think I can speak for alot of people here...................we all hate salesmen. :laughoff:

Please, just watch the video till the end. It clearly shows WHO!!!!!!!!! GOT US INTO THIS MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SORRY TO SOUND NEGATIVE....but I think this is going to get ugly! May even go a little sideways. Lock and load guys............I am good to go!!!!!!!! BRING IT......................:beerpint::laughing::laughing:

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I'm not voting for Obama either. I can't bear to think of the damage that could be done to this country with Pelosi, Reid, and Obama getting to do whatever they want. The economy may be in a slump right now but a knee-jerk reaction into socialism isn't the right answer. We have been through recessions before and the economy always comes back around. This one will be no different.

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Don't worry about it becase if you vote for Obama you are really voting for Joe Biden. I don't think Obama will make it past being sworn in before he gets lead poisoning if he is elected. A couple of rednecks were going to show Obama the way home at the Democratic convention until the dumba$$es got pulled iver for drunk driving.

" Damnit Bubba! Take your hood off so you can see to get a better shot!"

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Don't worry about it becase if you vote for Obama you are really voting for Joe Biden. I don't think Obama will make it past being sworn in before he gets lead poisoning if he is elected. A couple of rednecks were going to show Obama the way home at the Democratic convention until the dumba$$es got pulled iver for drunk driving.

" Damnit Bubba! Take your hood off so you can see to get a better shot!"

Nailed it.

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of course obama is "buying" the election. all the politicians do. he just has a more money to spend than others cause of the donations he receives.

im self employed too and id be receiving a nice tax credit if obama is president :).

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You must not be self employed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With his tax plan it will cost my business thousands of dollars :dunno:

and that is his PLAN, guess what folks, if he does that and the bottom drops out who feels it... our employees!!! we have to drop health plans, paid time off, drop in pay!!! it could get ugly! :?: :?:

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One of the things I think is funny is that Obama's "tax threshold" sort-of-speak, has dropped. A year ago, he said that anyone making over 300k a year would pay more, then he said anyone making over 250k a year, then yesterday he said anyone making over 200k a year would pay more. Plus, his running mate Biden said at a press conference the other day that anyone making over 150k would pay more!!

Don't be suprised if they go even lower when/if they get into office. I say that because it was just LAST YEAR when both Obama and Biden voted to tax those making 42k a year more!!

I'm scared to think what will happen if this azzhat gets into office!! :ah: :ah: :ah: :ah:

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remember all the sh*t that is promised in EVERY election?? how much actually comes to fruition??

remember...these "plans" have to get past the house and the senate too

This is why i swore not to vote again, because the plan we were promised never happend. Right now we need something to happen and this place has to change or we are all screwed.

I just dont get how so many people swear there are not that many problems going on or things are not that serious. I wish i lived where you did or had the job you do so i wouldent worry so much about my future and my kids future.

Let's just hope the promises he is making can and will happen, but you know they voice there opinion now and are like puppets on a string when they are elected to make everyone happy..

:B CHANGE for 08 LOL :dunno:

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WASHINGTON – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.

Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.

A sampling of what voters heard in the ad, and what he didn't tell them:

THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."

THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.

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THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."

THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.

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THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."

THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years — and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."

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THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "

THE FACTS: His proposals — the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more — cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged — although not in his commercial — that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

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of course obama is "buying" the election. all the politicians do. he just has a more money to spend than others cause of the donations he receives.

im self employed too and id be receiving a nice tax credit if obama is president :).

I dont know how you can call it a "donation" all that money that any politition recives is tanted. There is always a favor here or there to pay back the contribution. Plus He is a lawyer the last thing we need is more lawyers in power they have screwed things up from the get go, look at glamis for instance. I dont know how any off road enthusiast can in there right mind support a Democrat look at the Center for Biological diversity and the Sierra club just a bunch of rich spoiled Liberals with nothing better to do than cut of our acces to our lands. Who really wants to hike or ride horses on a sand dune. Plus we have a built in Zamboni called the wind, a little of it and you cant even tell we were there. I hope I am wrong but I can't vote for a guy who dosnt support his country and recites the pledge of allegance. Thats my 2 cents :headbang1:

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Besides all of that.... Nobody even knows if he is actually a natural born citizen of the US! He still refuses to release his birth certificate and has placed court injunctions to prevent anyone else from revealing it. Even if he was born in the US, as he claims but won't back up, the Muslim school he attended overseas required all students to be a citizen of the country the school was in. Had he actually become a citizen of that country, when he came back to the US and became a citizen again he would then be a naturalized citizen. That would still make him ineligible to be President as well.

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So if all that is true and he is a citizen of another country can you say President Arnold. The presedent will have been set and our constitution will have to be changed. Hello Demolition Man, what will be next all the resturants will be Taco Bell too. Help us all.....

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I want to see the Iraq war ended as do 72% of all americans.

McCain ignors that and it's why he'll get beat.

Screw the Iraqis, they can go to hell.

If Obama succeeds with his agenda, all we will have is another socialist monarchy, socialized medicine, gun control, high taxes, lower incomes, new carbon taxes, nurtured mediocrity, and increased pacifism.

Going to the doctor shouldn't be like going to the DMV or getting an all day long oil change at a Chevy dealer.

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Look at this BS................ :laughing:

AP: Obama’s aunt living in U.S. illegally

Immigration judge denied Kenyan woman’s request for asylum in 2004

WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.

Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in Obama's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

And he is going to help with all the illeagal's????????????????

Honestly people. :headbang1: this guy

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I want to see the Iraq war ended as do 72% of all americans.

McCain ignors that and it's why he'll get beat.

Screw the Iraqis, they can go to hell.

If Obama succeeds with his agenda, all we will have is another socialist monarchy, socialized medicine, gun control, high taxes, lower incomes, new carbon taxes, nurtured mediocrity, and increased pacifism.

Going to the doctor shouldn't be like going to the DMV or getting an all day long oil change at a Chevy dealer.

This email comes in three parts: Please read them all...

Part 1

In just two years. Remember the election in 2006?

Thought you might like to read the following:

A little over two years ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;

3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democratic Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;

2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $4.00 a gallon;

3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);

4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);

5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;

6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

Remember it's Congress that makes law not the President. He has to work with what's handed to him.

keep reading:

Part 2:

Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.

www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.html

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008

Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500

Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500

Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750

Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,00 0

Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750

Ma rried making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Both democratic candidates will return to the higher tax rates

It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever. If Obama is elected, he says he will repeal the Bush tax cuts and a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie 'The Sting' with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.

keep reading:

PART 3:

You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much?

Read this:

Boy am I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again

until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens

each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

Verify at:http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt..0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the

American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01..html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify :http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &

social services by the American taxpayers.

Verify at: http://premiumcnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt..01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused

by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01 /ldt.01..html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate

that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.

Verify at:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total

cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances

back to their countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million

Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.'

Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

The total cost is a whopping $3383 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

Are we THAT stupid?

If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

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